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Trump asks for conviction to be overturned after immunity ruling

Donald Trump’s lawyers have asked for the former president’s conviction in his hush-money criminal case to be overturned and his sentencing this month delayed, US media report.

A letter sent by Trump’s lawyers to the New York judge presiding over the trial reportedly cites Monday’s Supreme Court ruling that granted the former president immunity from prosecution for official actions he took while in office.

In May, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records. He will be sentenced on 11 July.

His team points out that he signed off the records while president in 2017, but one lawyer suggested this was unlikely to be considered an official act.

jordanlund ,
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US Internal News is not World News.

Please see News or Politics.

_sideffect ,

He’s such a good Catholic man

ATDA ,

Did he pay with government funds? Ok we’re probably good then.

Tarball ,

He wasn’t convicted of paying off a porn star. He was convicted of fake business records and falsifying records to promote getting elected.

Not sure how that’s a presidential official act.

But maybe in the orange brain, he’s always been president.

Atom ,

He seems to have at least partially succeeded: Manhattan Prosecutors Agree to Delay Trump’s Sentencing

nytimes.com/…/trump-sentencing-hush-money-trial.h…

Theprogressivist ,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

What the actual fuck bro? The judge hasn’t agreed yet, but since both sides agreed, it’s more than likely going to happen. I am sick of this piece of shit getting treated with kid gloves.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
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It’s a two tiered system and most of us are in the shit tier.

DxK ,

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    Omega_Man ,

    Per logic. Per fedsoc, yes, those were official acts. Baby Donnie’s first shit was an official act.

    dogslayeggs ,

    He was president when he falsified records, which is the crime he was convicted of, not paying off a porn star.

    HelixDab2 ,

    He wasn’t the president when the crime was committed, ipso facto he didn’t have presidential immunity.

    Nougat ,

    Doesn't matter, that's not the point. Delay and chaos are the point.

    machinaeZER0 ,

    Ex post facto, yeah - believe that’s the term at play here

    _haha_oh_wow_ ,
    @_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I think ex post facto would be passing a law that punishes people who broke the law before it existed.

    Iso facto means “by that very fact”

    machinaeZER0 ,

    That’s probably right - I interpreted it as “one can’t take advantage of a new ruling if the event already happened,” but I may be out of my depth here!

    Sc00ter ,

    The crime wasn’t the payment, it was the falsifying business records. And based solely on the information in this thread, the final signature for those false records did happen while he was in office in 2017.

    Just because it happened when he was in office does not make it an official act, but thats their argument

    dogslayeggs ,

    No, the crime isn’t the hush money, it’s the falsifying records. And THAT happened while he was president.

    cosmicrookie ,
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    Why not also ask for sunshine every Thursday of the year now that you’re at it

    Baphomet_The_Blasphemer ,

    If illegally bribing a porn star to be quiet about an extra marital affair before he won the election is considered an official act of the president, then I’m officially done with this country.

    Melkath ,

    That's your line?

    That line hasn't already been crossed ten times over for you?

    Genocide? You can stomach that.

    Paying a pornstar? Now that is just unacceptable!

    StinkyOnions ,

    He’s talking about Trump, not Biden.

    Melkath ,

    Amazing how yall cant talk about Biden without bringing up Trump, but you're lockstep about not bringing up Biden when talking about Trump.

    Its adorable.

    PS: He also specifically said "done with this country."

    StinkyOnions ,

    That makes absolutely no sense. This is a thread about Trump with an article posted about Trump. Yet you’re here “biden bad” when it has absolutely nothing to do with him. You’re being disengenious.

    Ghostalmedia ,
    @Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

    People talk about Biden all the damn time when Trump’s court corruption comes up. If I had a dollar for every time I saw a thread about Biden changing the court via packing or using the “official act” ruling, I’d be a rich man.

    People aren’t getting grumpy at you because you’re bringing up Biden, they’re getting grumpy because you want to start talking about Gaza in court corruption comment thread.

    Lemmy’s got noooo shortage of Gaza articles with comments that shit on the current president’s policies. And yes, since this is an election year, they also talk about his opponent’s policies in the region. That guy is winning in the polls and has policies that would be even worse for civilian deaths in that area. Those of us that care about saving civilian lives want to reduce military aid, not double down.

    logicbomb ,

    And Trump told Israel that they should “finish” Gaza.

    Trump is more genocidal than Biden, anyway.

    Melkath ,

    I didn't invoke Biden's name, so point stands, it's the pornstar money that's the line.

    logicbomb ,

    That doesn’t make any sense. Explain why you included the part about genocide at all of you didn’t intend it to be about Biden. It wouldn’t make sense to include that paragraph if you meant Trump or were trying to be ambiguous.

    Melkath ,

    Yes, I was referencing the one that is actually committing genocide.

    You came along to help me out though and pointed out that Trump wants genocide too, re-framing my argument.

    You and StinkyOnions were the ones who went "genocide? Oh, ya, the guy I support. Because I support genocide."

    I'm just saying its cute for people claiming moral superiority "being done with the country" because of pornstar money, not genocide.

    StinkyOnions , (edited )

    How does keeping you from derailing the thread mean I’m supporting biden? You sure are exposing yourself nicely.

    Edit: Your comment history speaks for itself. We have a MAGAT posing as a lefty.

    Dagwood222 ,

    So, Trump gets a pass on what happened to the Kurds?

    bloomberg.com/…/kurds-have-paid-dearly-for-trump-…

    homesweethomeMrL ,

    Barely a month in even

    tiefling ,

    His team are pushing for Israel to use nukes

    AIhasUse ,

    Absolutely. In theory, at least. In practice or in reality is a different matter altogether. Don’t let that stop your feelings or hunches, though.

    StinkyOnions ,

    The reality is Trump is more genocidal.

    "Trump responded by saying Biden has “become like a Palestinian,” which rights advocates said came across as a slur. "Actually, Israel is the one (that wants to keep going), and you should let them go and let them finish the job.

    reuters.com/…/trump-criticized-palestinian-insult…

    4am ,

    Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and talked a bunch of shit about how it belongs to Israel alone etc etc fueling the discontent of both Hamas and Zionists alike

    We might not even be in this mess now if it wasn’t for that shit. Motherfucker just lighting fires constantly.

    AIhasUse ,

    Yeah, don’t blame the murderer, blame the person who you think made the murder do the murdering. It wasn’t OJs fault, it was the rap music and violent movies!

    Varyk ,

    What do you like about genocide?

    Specifically

    Ghostalmedia ,
    @Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

    Paying a pornstar? Now that is just unacceptable!

    That person wasn’t complaining about the hush money, they were complaining about a corrupt court system, that bends the law in extreme ways, to let their appointer commit crimes without consequences.

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