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solidsnake2085 ,
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Probably because people are tired or drunk. Thermal Imaging won’t fix that.

ichbinjasokreativ ,

People could also wear something other than black clothes when they go outside at night.

Ookami38 , (edited )

Dude. For real. The number of jump scares I’ve had on a dark fuckin back road, and some bastard in all black seemingly materializes in front of me… Same thing with people who drove at dusk without lights on, MAKE YOURSELF VISIBLE

Latuga17 ,

It is your responsibility as the operator of a car to see pedestrians even if they are wearing black

emptiestplace ,

Sure is, but sometimes our brains don’t work perfectly.

Latuga17 ,

Then we should make safer roads for everyone with better designs and lower speeds

emptiestplace ,

This is not particularly controversial.

LUHG_HANI ,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

Said the non car driver.

ExLisper ,

No, it’s not. I’m the most responsible driver there is and even I draw the line here. When driving next to park cars I pay extra attention because someone may want to cross the road and walk out from behind a car even in places where it’s illegal but if someone hides behinds a bush and jumps out right in front of my car it’s not my fault. At night it’s my responsibility to drive below the speed limit and pay attention to the road but if some black ninja hides on the curb there’s not much I can do about it.

Landsharkgun ,

Uh, no, pretty sure it is legally your responsibility to be safe to everyone around you when driving. If you can’t do that, don’t drive a car.

ExLisper ,

Even to suicidal people that jump in front of cars on purpose? BS

Landsharkgun ,

Yes.

If you’re operating a piece of heavy machinery at high speeds, “But they ran into road!” is not an excuse.

ExLisper ,

Are you trolling? Absolutely no one would agree with that. You can’t simply absolve pedestrians of all responsibility. It’s so stupid I can’t even argue with that.

TimewornTraveler ,

yeah I just murder people based on the color of their clothes. if they didn’t want to be murdered they wouldn’t have dressed like that

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Fuck you, that is obviously not what I said. You people should really learn how to read, instead of just making shit up and then believing I actually said it.

TimewornTraveler ,

I read it just fine, that’s your implication.The pedestrian is responsible for protecting themselves against the tyranny of the SUV. I guess if that’s the world you want then vroom vroom mf

Flyingostrich ,

Everyone has a responsibility for their own safety. We should do what is reasonable to reduce harm and risk to others, but there is only so much that can be reasonable. If a person wears dark clothing, doesn’t use crosswalks, doesn’t check for cars etc at what point does their safety become their responsibility?

RazorsLedge ,

Whew, I’m not alone.

GissaMittJobb ,

Oh, nice! Victim blaming!

pedz ,

Anything but slowing down when it’s difficult to see ahead. We’ll just victim blame dead pedestrians, deer and raccoons for wearing dark colors at night.

Treczoks ,

Like the case with the paintball guy a few years ago. Someone was driving on a road in the woods at night when he suddenly hit a guy - dressed in dark camo, face blackened, etc, anything not to be seen - who came running out of the woods onto the road. He was a paintballer being persued by members of the opposite team. The car took him out of the game, though.

SitD ,

this is gonna be super bad for lizard people 😱

13617 ,

mark Zuckerberg is crying right now…

TimewornTraveler ,

hmm thermal imaging in cars… or just more public transit and street lighting… give me the expensive capitalist hellcreating thing

Guest_User ,

I’m all for more public transport but I’m also all for improving safety features for pedestrians. Not sure why anyone would be against putting the cost on car owners.

Flyingostrich ,

That only works in more urban areas.

Its impossible to covered every road in lights and it can get very dark when you are far away from a city. Same with public transit. I am all for it, but it’s only reasonable in more densely populated areas. There just won’t be enough people using it in th middle of nowhere to just something like that much less staff it.

Meanwhile helping cars see people even in those less common and more difficult situations is a good thing. Why would you NOT want your car to be safer for others around you?

deur ,

Awww shit bois the huge country with plenty of money cannot afford to do it

Alexstarfire ,

IMO, I don’t think it matters whether we can or can’t. I don’t think we should even if we could. Light pollution from cities is bad enough. Adding that many more lights would make it so much worse.

Landsharkgun ,

Conical shades on streetlights and yellow light to reduce interference with sleep.

Also: fewer fucking cars.

Cethin ,

Imagine how much less light pollution there would be without all the cars…

Landsharkgun ,

80% of the US population, and about half of the world population, lives in urban areas.

By 2050, those figures will be 90% and 75%, respectively.

Planning better urban areas won’t help everyone, but it will help the supermajority.

Cethin ,

Where do you think people lived during westward expansion when every town was connected by rail? There weren’t too many urban places out there.

It’s a myth that it only works for urban areas. Switzerland has their trains travel to basically every town on time and frequently, and those towns in the alps are sure as hell a lot harder to reach than whatever rural place you’re thinking of. Admittedly, getting from the station to your destination will be harder without a car until things are built or changed to replace car dependence, but car dependence was manufactured, not intrinsic.

JiveTurkey ,

Right. I can’t wait for the thermal camera on my ridiculously expensive car to break so it can become a lawn ornament until I spend thousands on a new camera.

cogman ,

As a pedestrian, this is why wearing high viz/lighted clothing at night is so important.

duffman ,

A high percentage of the people who are hit at night are on drunk, drugs, or mentally ill. Not exactly the type to heed this advice. Maybe homeless services could pass out reflective clothes.

bbuez ,

I would absolutely love a source on that one, still not a great look to disregard safety and life so nonchalantly

duffman ,

Are you saying I’m disregarding their lives somehow? If so I think you are adding your own interpretation to my comment.

Regarding the data, I don’t recall where I first read that. But here’s what I found from google. Obviously the new numbers will vary greatly by location. And it doesn’t exactly support what I said because this just specifies homeless, not their mental state.

seattletimes.com/…/removal-of-portland-homeless-c….

force ,

A high percentage of drivers are drunk, on drugs, or mentally ill* especially those hitting people

Most drivers wouldn’t exactly take the advice of “pay attention to the fucking road so you dont kill people” and should have their licenses stripped from them. America’s dependence on cars had made the bar for getting permission to drive a 4000 lb death machine far too low

duffman ,

Sounds like your trying to have an argument but I agree with you.

aeharding ,
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www.simonandschuster.com/books/…/9781982129682

drahardja ,

Cadillac and Mercedes have had thermal cameras on their cars since the early 2000s. There is probably enough data from their vehicles to see if this technology actually helps reduce collisions at night.

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