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autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Way back in 2015, Tesla CEO Elon Musk would frequently give his engineers an earful after his car company’s infamous Autopilot driver assistance tech nearly got him killed during test drives on multiple occasions — though there’s a chance its dangerous behavior may have been due to Musk’s stubbornness on how the technology should be built.

Per its chapter on the launch of the driver assistance tech, Musk would learn firsthand that a curve on Interstate 405 caused Autopilot, thrown off by the road’s faded lane lines, to steer into and “almost hit” oncoming traffic.

But if Musk wanted safer software, he perhaps should’ve listened to his engineers, who have frequently petitioned over the years to incorporate what’s known as light detection and ranging technology, or LiDAR.

LiDAR is essentially radar that uses light instead of sound, and Tesla’s competitors, including Google’s Waymo, have long leveraged it to help their autonomous cars “see.”

Musk, however, has insisted that Tesla’s cars only use optical sensors, likening it to how humans primarily use their eyes to drive, according to the biography, and as such, he’s been tepid on using plain old radar, too.

"We told Elon that it was best safety-wise to use it … but it was clear that he thought we should eventually be able to rely on camera vision only, "one young engineer who joined in 2014 recalled, as quoted in the biography.

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malloc OP ,

Good bot

Arthur_Leywin ,

Good hooman

Elliott ,

Looks like autopilot have developed consciousness. Does it drink beer? Can we be friends?

Zacryon ,

So there is still hope that our machine overlords will make good decisions.

markr ,

As 2023 FSD frequently attempts potentially lethal actions, 2015 FSD must have been spectacularly awful. The headline neglects the fact this was 8 years ago.

mycroft ,

He noticed in 2015… How much you wanna bet he trusted it more back then and it almost killed him a bunch.

Dekthro ,

Well, yes. Because it specifically happened to him. He doesn’t care about everyone else.

cerevant ,

This is the reality of safety engineering: he will go on for days about his statistics that say it is safer to drive a Tesla, but when it is you that rolls a nat 1, suddenly they aren’t safe enough.

Overzeetop ,
@Overzeetop@kbin.social avatar

This it the reality of right-wing neuropathy. Republicans will go on for days about how checks and balances (regulations) are bad and being successful and safe is about personal responsibility. But when something bad happens to them, suddenly the entire system is bad and should have been keeping them safe. Musk's complete lack of empathy shows in his hubris and his political associations.

ElleChaise ,

Typical conservative.

nostradiel ,
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

2015… Not relevant today.

sugartits ,

Shhhh, we’re busy jerking off to today’s Musk hate article. The ritual must not be interrupted, even if we have to dig out old news.

zerofk ,

It’s a feature, not a bug.

muse ,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

Maybe I judged AI too harshly...

finthechat ,
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

The assassination coordinates are coming from inside the building

coco ,

Damn it failed

Hanabie ,
@Hanabie@kbin.social avatar

Too bad it failed.

LeatherRebel ,

YOU HAD ONE JOB AUTOPILOT

Illuminostro ,

Where’s HAL when you need him?

scarabic ,

He always springs into action once something affects him personally.

dynamojoe ,

Even the robots hate you, Elon.

ApexHunter ,

Stupid article. Lidar can’t see lines painted on the road. Using lidar wouldn’t have any impact on the described problem.

hikaru755 ,

The described problem wasn’t that the car didn’t see the lines, it was the car steering into oncoming traffic when it couldn’t see the lines. Lidar could potentially very well help with that, by giving the car a better model of the surroundings letting it better reconstruct the intended road path even when the lines are faded, and also see oncoming traffic better and avoid it.

Jrockwar ,

Exactly this. Also I wanted to point out, LIDAR absolutely sees the lines on the road. Of course, this is not much use if they’re faded, but LIDAR receives points from the road/ground, and since lane markings are white, they have a much higher reflectivity. So if you look at a LiDAR pointcloud, the lane markings have a higher point concentration and you can definitely see them.

Source: I work in this sector.

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

LiDARs can absolutely detect painted lines and other painted symboles on the road. LiDAR is an active sensor technology that emits a LASER light beam and measurs the reflected echo, using the time delay between emittion and reception (time of flight) to measure distance. The painted lines will reflect the LASER with more intensity than the asphalt and the LiDAR sensor has the ability to measure that as well.

markr ,

The successful autonomous vehicle deployments all use LiDAR and hd maps and cameras. Tesla is way behind at this point.

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