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99nights ,

Literally the only ‘new’ thing with the 15

Beowulf ,

But, but… it’s .3% faster!!!1!!

Ocelot ,

Hey hey they said “10% faster” … In certain cases… Sometimes.

Arfman ,

Apple lightning cable it means. The charger still works fine

BornVolcano ,

They’re just going to try to make one that’s ever so slightly better, and then patent it again

HRDS_654 ,

NOOOOOOO! This goes against their narrative that they chose to do it! How dare you!

The only thing Apple chose themselves was placing an artificial limit on the port.

moitoi ,

Now, I’m waiting how they will use marketing and communication on ditching the magsafe and going back to only USB-C.

Estebiu ,
@Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Magsafe it’s pretty cool tho. Plus they open sourced it so next Qi standard is probably gonna have it. I don’t know what I’m talking about btw.

moitoi ,

We are not speaking about the same magsafe. EU requires in the near future USB-C for laptops too. Apple must include USB-C by default and ditching the magsafe.

boonhet ,

Are they going to ditch it though? As I understand, they don’t need to ditch it as long as USB-C charging remains an option.

For charging alone, Magsafe is objectively the better choice because it snaps in and out of place, so it’s both easier to insert and won’t pull your laptop off the living room table if your kid or dog runs into the cable. For docking in your dedicated workspace, you’ll still use USB-C attached to your monitor of course, it’s excellent for that and Magsafe doesn’t do data.

notepass ,

Yeah, I think it says that you have to support USB-C charging. But you can add whatever else you want. And if I remember correctly, macbooks can be charged via C and magsafe already. So all up to snuff

boonhet ,

Yup, both work!

moitoi ,

The regulation is the same as for smartphones. In the EU, laptops must charge with USB-C by default. Apple can still include on the laptop a magsafe port which will be useless for the consumer in this area. The easiest to comply for Apple is to put a USB-C to USB-C cable instead of the USB-C to magsafe for Europe.

AA5B ,

My laptop can already charge over USB-C from my docking station, or with a MagSafe cable. It’s an older M1 laptop but that ought to cover any such requirement

moitoi ,

It’s the single charger regulation. In the EU, Apple must use USB-C instead of magsafe for the laptops. It’s the same as for smartphones.

Estebiu ,
@Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No. Magsafe and usb c can both be present.

owiseedoubleyou ,
@owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml avatar

No one will ever miss you

1980srobot ,

I find it odd that this is the only noteworthy feature in the new phone.

Ocelot ,

pretty much all smartphones past few years have been incremental upgrades. Sometimes theres some gimmick but it really feels like we’ve reached a peak

Amir ,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

The Fold/Flip were pretty big jumps in tech.

jivandabeast ,

Idk why you’re being downvoted, its true. Folding screen technology has been pretty much the only major innovation in the phone space for a while now.

Ocelot ,

and it was 5 years ago at least.

scarabic ,

Folding is high on the “neato” scale but isn’t considered a major milestone because it’s really sort of a gimmick and in smartphone terms, is a small niche feature. Most people don’t want a thicker phone that can become a too-small tablet by slowly forming a damage crease down its screen.

csm10495 ,
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I remember when people thought a front facing camera was niche.

scarabic ,

You can say that about literally every feature. But folding has been around 5 years and isn’t becoming integral to every device. Front facing cameras were within 5 years.

jivandabeast ,

Disagree, the technology is improving and the shapes of the phone are becoming more usable.

Anecdotally, i know a good amount of people who switched/want to switch off iphone to android specifically for folding phones. The form factor of the zflip/razr is a lot more usable for people who have small pockets or people who just think it’s plain cool.

The “damage crease” isnt a huge deal, and most people upgrade after 3ish years anyway so as long as it can make it that far it won’t matter to them.

AA5B ,

I’m excited about the Thread Network Protocol in the Pro version. I have no idea what will be implemented yet and Matter/Theead are rolling out way too slowly but it will be interesting to find out

FYI ,

FINALLY!

punseye ,

good headline, apple was “forced”

psychothumbs ,

Good job EU, screw you Apple

fne8w2ah ,

Three cheers for the EU! 🇪🇺

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    13esq ,

    Why? What can lightening do that USB can’t? Is there anything even slightly better about the way lightening connectors are manufactured or used?

    USB has been the world’s standard for connectivity and powering for decades and lightening was nothing more than an attempt to keep customers in the “ecosystem”.

    The amount of lightening connectors I’ve seen taped up is shocking, you never see that with USB.

    pineapplelover ,

    Lightning is fucking outdated and very slow.

    Honytawk ,

    But they didn’t, because it would cut into their profits.

    That is the only reason proprietary ports are created.

    Ktheone ,

    Everyday just makes me love the EU more and more.

    Petter1 ,

    😏next will be replaceable batteries, alternative App Stores and messengers who have to use a open protocol for chat (open in a sense that different chat apps can Talk to each other, but the privacy is still protected. Like eMail but with end to end encryption)

    PR_freak ,

    And a hefty backdoor for the government to put it’s dirty little naily fingers in

    Mr_1077 ,

    The EU is quite awesome, eh? They are so nice! (/s)

    Petter1 ,

    I hope that the protocol is open source and approved by trusted privacy protection peoples everywhere in the world. But yea, better everyone would have their own matrix servers, I agree.

    Honytawk ,

    Which government? There isn’t just one in the EU.

    Or are you talking about the US government?

    PR_freak ,

    I live in the EU so yes I know

    I was talking about an abstract entity government not any government in particular

    anlumo ,

    The word you’re looking for is “federated”.

    rmuk ,

    It’s not, really. They’re not being forced to interoperate or adopt a standard intermediary protocol, just to publish APIs. WhatsApp and iMessage will still be totally separate services if they want to be.

    joel_feila ,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    Interoperability is also a word you can use Crosscompatible Lots of cromulent words.

    electrogamerman ,

    For real, babe.

    NigelFrobisher ,

    As long as it still refuses to charge because of fluff in the port - take my money!

    13esq ,

    Wireless charging is a thing, but I’d say it’s less practical than just cleaning your port out every now and again.

    MeanEYE ,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    So funny seeing Apple fans eat up their PR. Ooh it was Apple’s plan all along? They did it because it’s more environmentally friendly? Yeah right and it only coincides the very same year EU is enforcing every manufacturer to go USB-C route. No one ever stopped to think if Apple is so environmentally friendly why were they fighting right to repair act.

    And don’t give me that “iPad had USB-C” speech. If lightning port could handle higher currents, iPad would have gone that route as well. USB has been standard for many years now but they have pushed so many different ports instead of going USB route. They don’t care about anything else other than milking a bit more money from their users.

    TheLowestStone ,
    @TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

    In my opinion, Apple’s choice to reduce the number and variety of ports on their devices in order to sell more dongles was where mobile device enshitification began in earnest. Now my phone just spys on me and vomits ads constantly and I can’t even plug in my fucking headphones.

    asteriskeverything ,

    They take ages to adopt great features that have existed on Android devices for years, and yet are THE leader of what corners to cut in the industry.

    RogueBanana ,

    We like to call it innovation here, innovative ideas to fuck everyone and get a bit of bonus for the ceo

    vermyndax ,

    Actually, Apple supports the right to repair law now: theverge.com/…/apple-california-right-to-repair-s…

    clayt ,

    Only when they can find a way to make money from it.

    DacoTaco ,
    @DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

    Ye no, i will only say they support it the moment their devices isnt made to not be repaired and have dark patterns all over them

    sep ,

    They saw the the writing on the wall, and turned colours as soon as they saw they were fighiting a loosing battle.

    13esq , (edited )

    Like any populist leader, they have just seen which way the crowd is moving, ran to the front and pretended that’s what they were going to do all along.

    I want to say that people like you falling for this is mind blowing, but it actually just seems to be a rather depressing part of human nature. I’ll never understand why people show such loyalty to a company that only cares about how much money they can extract from your pockets.

    Honytawk ,

    No, they were forced to.

    If you actually look closer to their setup, it is extremely difficult and costs tons of money. Just to make their Genius bars seem reasonable.

    Cheez ,

    “iPad had USB-C”

    Any argument they make for iPads having USB-C is moot because they are still selling Lightning iPads.

    MeanEYE ,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    That too!

    ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

    For me, nothing could ever possibly top Apple’s rejection of strain relievers on their cables. It’s absolutely the perfect blend of their overrated design sense with their unerring corporate instinct for planned obsolescence.

    MeanEYE ,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    Also let us not forget Apple is the only laptop manufacturer whose laptops have failing SATA cables. I am yet to run into any laptop with drive cables failing.

    wavebeam ,
    @wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

    Sata cables? There aren’t sata cables in MacBooks and haven’t been for like a decade.

    MeanEYE ,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    Indeed. And yet I have never mentioned anything about what age laptops I was talking about. Then again, Apple was also only manufacturer with unibody laptop whose two parts unglued when you used your laptop for anything more intensive because they designed air flow in such a way so that hot air blows on “unibody” glued part. It’s just comedy all around.

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