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alekwithak ,

If I wanted a streaming box I’d buy or build a streaming box. If I wanted anyone with my remote control to be able to access my YouTube viewing history and all my streaming accounts I’d make it happen. What I want is a cheap dongle that my family and guests can use to quickly share media to the big screen!

catloaf ,

Isn’t that what a Chromecast is? The one I have, you just connect to the wifi and it shows up as a cast target. It doesn’t do anything else.

criitz ,

They don’t make those anymore, I think

alekwithak ,

Yes but they discontinued them in favor of Google TV, and they also heavily nerfed the capabilities by putting Google TV apps on there. For instance I now often have to pull out the virtual remote in the YouTube app to make a pop-up go away so I can watch the YouTube video I cast.

catloaf ,

Mine still worked fine, the last time I checked.

alekwithak ,

I have five from multiple generations, so I’m very aware. They changed this functionality on all of them. I never said they didn’t still work, and I gave a clear example of how the functionality is being nerfed.

catloaf ,

They haven’t changed the functionality on mine as far as I’ve noticed. It’s still a cheap dongle that people can use to quickly share media to the screen. Is that not what you wanted?

alekwithak , (edited )

When they released Android TV they implemented the full apps into Chromecast so it went from just a video playing client to an extremely underpowered streaming stick, without a Google TV remote a lot of the players were broken and because it’s an out of production out of support device you are stuck with whatever crippled functionality they leave us. I tried to set one up for my wife a couple of weeks ago and she couldn’t cast certain YouTube videos to it because it was prompting her to sign-in but the sign-in functionality has been broken for two years now. If your device has somehow avoided any updates you have a gem; that thing would fetch a handsome sum on eBay.

Is it still a cheap dongle that people can use to quickly share media to the screen? Yes, that’s why I have five. I’d like them to support and keep making them. I’d like them to work as seamlessly as they did 2012-2015ish.

Albbi ,

Try out Smarttubenext. Made watching YouTube on my chromecast with Google TV enjoyable again.

alekwithak ,

I’ll check it out, thanks!

pixxelkick ,

I own multiple gens of Chromecasts from gen 1 to to CCwGTV

I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

I click cast, I click the device I’m casting to, it works, never had this issue on any of my devices abd all of them are set to auto update and afaik running latest versions.

alekwithak ,

That’s fantastic for you, but a quick Google search will bring up plenty of articles and reddit threads of people bitching about this and other ways the Chromecast has been broken over the years.

pixxelkick ,

Why is this being framed this way.

Rebranding the next gen of your product isn’t “killing” it, people are so fucking clickbaitable.

It’s the same product, just next gen with better specs abd they’re going with a new simpler brand name than “Chromecast with Google TV” (yes that’s the actual product name before) and instead the next gen is named “Google TV Streamer”

It’s the exact same thing, and all existing hardware will keep working.

Chromecasts are standalone and effectively just running a modified version of Android. They can’t really be “killed” as they work over local network. Theoretically any chromecast will last forever as it’s functionality is based off a specified open source protocol, so as long as you have a device that can output it (cast), you can cast to your chromecast.

So it’s impossible to “kill”. I have a gen 1 chromecast that still 100% works fine today.

Newer Chromecasts ahem Google TVs just have more features, like apps you can install and sideload.

People are dumb for falling for this clickbait title.

SilentStorms ,

I get what you’re saying, but these new ones are twice the price of the 4K Chromecast. It sucks that they’re killing the $30 HD Chromecast as well, its great for my spare TV. I wouldn’t want to pay 3x that price for essentially the same functionality if I need to replace it.

I know there’s other Android TV boxes that are comparable, but Google’s offering was an easy go-to.

pixxelkick ,

I wrote it up elsewhere, but I don’t mind the price point.

The built in ethernet port covers a lot of that.

A solid quality ethernet dongle is gonna be $25, so now that’s $75 for the 4k CCwGTV + ethernet.

So you’re paying $25 extra for the better form factor (2 chained dongles look so bad), the extra ram, better processor, etc

For some folks that might not matter, but I use Steam Link on my CCwGTV and those specs will likely make a tangible boost in gaming performance for quality, frame rate, latency, input lag, etc.

So in my demographic of people gaming with em, I 100% expect it’ll be a popular upgrade.

The ethernet part is pretty big, overall. Don’t overbook that.

SilentStorms ,

I’m not denying that these features are a welcome addition, I’m just lamenting the loss of the cheaper version for use-cases where those features arent really needed.

I pretty much just watch Youtube on my bedroom TV, and I got one for my mom so she can watch Netflix on her 10 year old 720p 32”. I don’t want to pay $100 for that.

I might get the new one for Steam Link in the living room though, that does sound sick.

tilefan ,

The new device includes a processor that claims to be up to 22 percent faster than before, with twice as much RAM (4GB) and four times the storage (32GB). It supports 4K streaming at 60 fps with an HDMI 2.1a port. There’s HDR support (Dolby Vision) and spatial audio (Dolby Atmos).

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

That whole “22% faster” worries me. 4 years later and only 22% faster?

Teknikal ,
@Teknikal@eviltoast.org avatar

Seems like most of the streaming hardware companies (amazon/roku/Google) are going out of their way to make products worse. Someone’s probably going to take their lunch and they’ll all act shocked about it.

Seems a dangerous game to play with so many Asian alternatives and sbc computers getting to the point they could do that job.

Don’t get me wrong this box isn’t horrible just really overpriced for the old specs.

sunzu ,

US business "leadership" is high on monopoly power... They don't care what customer wants, they don't care what competitors are doing that's not one of them.

They treat American consumer as a cornered market to be milked at every corner. The issie is that many Americans LARP it as gospel.

Vote with your fucking money, deny them profit and engagement.

Media is ripe for this, piracy is the solution the problem here. I wish other markets were as is lol

If we can't even set this clowns straight, how do you think we will fix housing food education. And healthcare?

Goverment gonna be fix for you, boy?

Pinky promise!

🤡

Teknikal , (edited )
@Teknikal@eviltoast.org avatar

Ah I’m not an American consumer, just these companies acting suicidely mostly in an attempt to restrict their devices and force more ads I think.

I just think they are playing a dumb game because something is definetly going to undercut the lot of them while they are playing silly games. I think my next streaming TV device will be a good sbc as I just don’t like these company’s being in full control of my own devices.

At the minute I’m favouring a ryzen apu board but arms making a very strong showing now as well, so yeah I really don’t believe these big companies will get away with it for long.

pixxelkick ,

The built in ethernet cable seems almost worth it.

It’s around $15 to $20 to add on a usb c ethernet dongle to the existing CCwGTV dongle if you want high speed connection to it (which you prolly do if you wanna stream 4k or lower latency game with Steam Link )

Better quality dongles are closer to $25 if you dont want it to crap out.

So, assuming the onboard ethernet is comparable to a higher end dongle, you’d be looking at closer to $75 to get the same experience with the Older CCwGTV model. ($50 + $25)

Add in the higher specs and the fact that chaining 2 dongles together looks ugly as fuck and easier to fail, and the +$25 remaining ($75 -> $100) is not actually too horrible of an extra price.

$100 for a better form factor (the dongle does look bad), better specs, built in ethernet, it’s not terrible ngl.

I game with Steam Link all the time on my CCwGTV so I 100% am gonna spend the money on better specs so I feel like I’m taking better advantage of my 4060ti I’m Steam linking to.

If it has a better bluetooth card too that’s gonna be even bigger, better wireless controller range is awesome.

That extra RAM is not something to scoff at.

The extra storage is kinda dumb though, prolly the real cash grab. I doubt anyone was maxing out their CCwGTV storage capacity o_O

butter ,

ITT: People who don’t know as much as me.

All they killed was the branding. The Chromecast with Google TV was such a far cry from an OG Chromecast that it was stupid for them to have the same name.

OG Chromecast could only cast and did not have a remote. The CCwGT did still support casting, but also had a remote and a real UI.

The TV streamer is just the CCwGT in a fancy shell with probably a more powerful processor. I’ll bet money that it still supports casting, and can only do pretty much exactly what the CCwGT could do.

Socsa ,

Yeah, the google TV dongle has been the mainline product for like 5 years at this point. Honestly it’s pretty good because it means I don’t have to let my TV connect to the internet so it cant download ads.

riquisimo ,

That’s the #1 reason why I use a chromecast instead of using the built-in TV function

philodendron ,

Yeah seriously… the fact that only 2 or so commenters correctly understood the headline reflects poorly on the community

Chocrates ,

Is there any open source chrome cast? I know of one project but it required a special server as well. I just want to plug something into my HDMI port so I can cast dumb YouTube videos, why does it have to be this hard.

butter ,

You can install LineageOS on one of the models of Chromecast for Android TV.

j4yt33 ,

I don’t know if Kodi is still around, I used it years ago on a raspberry pi. Bit of a faff but if YouTube is all you need then it should be good enough. Or maybe a second hand Chromebook?

riquisimo ,

All I want is something that I can put on a raspberry pi, and then from my phone use the “share” menu to share a URL to some app that communicates with the pi and plays the video URL.

Why doesn’t that exist yet? Share YouTube video to rasp. Pi, then have and controls on the phone app.

Chocrates ,

github.com/MayaPosch/NymphCast this exists. I built a proxmox server and patched qemu so I could have a gaming virtual machine, and yet that repo looks like more work than I want to do 😅

pirat , (edited )

Have a look at LibreELEC “just enough OS for Kodi” for the Pi - at least if you plan on using it primarily for running Kodi as a “casting receiver”. (LibreELEC even supports Docker containers as Kodi add-ons too, if you need the Pi to run more than just Kodi.)

  • Kodi will natively play some types of links shared to it through the “Kore” remote app’s “Play on Kodi” in the share menu.
  • Even more types of links are supported with the right add-ons such as YouTube links through Invidious add-on (or YouTube add-on with your own token), local broadcasters’ VoD content, some paid streaming services and many more but it’s a bit hit and miss…
  • With DLNA enabled in Kodi, many more types of stream URLs can be extracted from websites and sent to Kodi with apps like “Web Video Caster”. I think this one has the option of routing the stream through the phone (which is only necessary for some types of streams).

Depending on your media consumption habits and requirements, it might not be the perfect solution, but possibly prettttty good one for a Raspberry Pi.

Ilovethebomb ,

A cheap PC with a wireless keyboard and track pad.

lemmyvore ,

What project?

pixxelkick ,

That’s literally what a chromecast is.

I have multiple generations of them, and casting a YouTube video is 2 clicks.

  1. Cast button
  2. Pick what device to cast to.

Done.

tilefan ,

the Chromecast ultra had an Ethernet port

Big_Boss_77 ,

Some Google C-Level shit stain got caught watching some porn his significant other didn’t approve of when he accidentally hit the Chromecast button… that’s the whole reason they’re axing it…

Speculation… but it’s as good a reason as any.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

as long as i get my smart tube next… (i know it changed it’s name but i forgot what part they removed)

Kelo ,
@Kelo@lemmy.world avatar

Oh well, off to the graveyard

radiohead37 ,

I don’t invest my time in Google products anymore. Right now Gmail is the last Google service I still use.

cygnus , (edited )
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“Google kills Chromecast and replaces it with something that it will also kill and replace in a few years”

I made the mistake of buying Google Homes years ago. They got badly nerfed last year — Google removed the ability to read recipes out loud, which is the main thing I used it for. They also crippled the API so that I can no longer add tasks to Todoist. I’m never buying another Google product.

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