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uBlock Origin developer recommends switching to Firefox as Chrome flags the extension

~~www.neowin.net/news/…/~~

EDIT: Apologies. Updated with a link to what gorhill REALLY said:

Manifest v2 uBO will not be automatically replaced by Manifest v3 uBOL[ight]. uBOL is too different from uBO for it to silently replace uBO – you will have to explicitly make a choice as to which extension should replace uBO according to your own prerogatives.

Ultimately whether uBOL is an acceptable alternative to uBO is up to you, it’s not a choice that will be made for you.

**Will development of uBO continue?**Yes, there are other browsers which are not deprecating Manifest v2, e.g. Firefox.

Swarfega ,

They should update the Chrome extension to tell people to download Firefox instead

r3df0x ,

Imagine if Google’s decision to do this to fight adblockers results in them losing the lead in the browser war because everyone switches to other browsers.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Dreaming is one thing, but I remain skeptical. Tech people always seem to vastly overestimate how much the average population will react to tech news. Most people don’t care. They should but they don’t. In addition to that, use of Chrome by businesses is heavily entrenched. The IT guys probably hate it on a personal level, but it takes a lot to make business bigwigs change direction away from a “trustworthy” big company like Google.

r3df0x ,

The vast majority of people aren’t even going to know or care. A lot of people will probably just continue on even when their adblocker becomes less effective. Of course the type of people who use adblockers are also more likely to wonder why their adblocker suddenly became less effective and then switch to a browser where it’s more effective.

It takes a lot to change the inertia that already exists. People have been predicting the rise of the Linux desktop for at least a decade now and it still hasn’t really caught on.

WereCat ,

Tech people are niche but over time we will pre-install what we consider “good” on our grandmas, dads, moms, friends, etc… PCs

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

The older generation demographic continues to shrink, while it seems the great majority of Gen Z and A are perfectly happy to use whatever ecosystem is built into their device. I’m not saying that people shouldn’t want better software, merely being realistic about the choices of populations.

FiskFisk33 ,

I mostly agree, but lets remember

use of Chrome by businesses is heavily entrenched.

So was internet explorer

Llewellyn ,

And we had it like forever.

FiskFisk33 ,

“like” being a very important word in that sentence.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Chrome was backed by Google, a multifaceted staple of the Internet ecosystem and rolled out with a ton of marketing behind it.

I remain skeptical that Firefox could plausibly overtake Chrome. The mere word of mouth of tech enthusiasts simply isn’t enough to make a population majority proactively switch.

kartoffelsaft ,

The thing that finally got businesses to finally get off IE wasn’t from the browser being worse than every other option. Heck, it wasn’t even because it was a decrepit piece of software that lost it’s former market dominance (and if anything businesses see that as a positive, not a negative).

What finally did that was microsoft saying there won’t be any security updates. That’s what finally got them off their ass; subtly threatening them with data breaches, exploits, etc. if they continue to use it. I don’t see google doing this anytime soon, at least not without a “sequel” like microsoft had with edge.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/282e7cf3-555e-401a-b24c-1cac4a80a333.jpeg

Bonesince1997 ,

I switched somewhere in the early 2000s, from Internet Explorer (Microsoft), and never looked back. (Using IE and now Edge as alternatives only, when I get the rare non-functional Firefox issue.) Never created an account either. I manually save and port my bookmarks!

fin ,

I see librewolf in the edge

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d95e3732-b93f-47d4-92f2-550234ba23e0.jpeg

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

Already switched as soon as I learned of Google’s plans. They can go screw themselves for doing this. Firefox, the land of the free and open source!

FeelThePower ,

ive gotten almost my entire friend group using either the same fork as me or the original firefox, they all used chrome before. all because google was dumb enough to overstep some peoples boundaries.

TriflingToad ,

if you don’t mind, which fork are you using? I got my sister to switch to firefox too.

sparkle ,

not the original commenter but FLOORP, BABYYYY!!! let’s go let’s get this floorp action come on floorp is the best reign supreme for a thousand years floorp woooooo

ripcord , (edited )
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

You’ve watched a lot of Rick and Morty haven’t you

sparkle ,

n… nuh uh

FeelThePower ,

I use waterfox. They are independent again since last year and their big thing besides privacy is that they carry over a lot of stuff from Firefox that was scrapped with the proton design.

Sparky ,
@Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

So now we need an adblock blocker blocker to unblock our adblockers

TheImpressiveX OP ,
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

“Yo dawg, I heard you like adblockers…”

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/65c57bb1-6198-438b-86a6-ec3c2ab6604d.jpeg

Bahnd ,

Its an old meme sir, but it checks out.

Dettweiler42 ,

I switched to Firefox last year when talks of chromium manifest V3 First started popping up. I had used Firefox many years ago when Chrome was first coming out. I was blown away at how well it worked compared to old Firefox, plus how easy they made it to switch. I even changed my phone browser and my desktop browser ties in with it seamlessly. Very happy with the switch and I wish I had switched earlier.

Now, I just wish I could use it at work. Not sure how I’m going to block ads on my work browser.

the_radness ,

My work blocks all kinds random software, Firefox included. My workaround is using Brave browser and a service like NextDNS either as an app or as the DNS provider for my home network. It’s not perfect but it’s flexible enough.

Dettweiler42 ,

What’s odd is that we have Firefox pre-installed on our computers, but installing uBlock causes a lot of websites to stop loading. I forget the error, but I recall doing a lot of searching and it quickly becoming more effort than it was worth at the time since I’d have to do it all over again almost every day.

the_radness ,

That’s by design. uBlock is blocking ad and spyware network requests. It’s common for sites to crash or error because of this. They’ll depend on a call to Google or Sentry or DataDog to succeed before continuing with their initialization. As a platform engineer for several web properties, I die a little inside every time I see this happen.

Dettweiler42 ,

It works flawlessly on my personal devices. I’m assuming the errors are due to something with our intranet security.

the_radness ,

Have you tried VPN?

Dettweiler42 ,

Can’t add that to work PCs, plus we already use our own VPN service for external devices

Suavevillain ,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to Firefox to anyone who is switching. I use a fork for Firefox (Floorp) Becuase I like it’s features.

LowtierComputer ,

What does that do?

ILikeBoobies ,

Mozilla telemetry disabled (you can do this on normal firefox)

Some themes

Sidebar extensions

More easily move titlebar (firefoxcss)

LowtierComputer ,

Thank you fellow Boob liker.

NaoPb ,

I agree with them. Better switch to Firefox.

dan1101 ,

IIRC the Google crackdown was supposed to happen this past January so Chrome users are lucky they got some extra time to switch.

sturlabragason , (edited )

@TheImpressiveX

Maybe you should update the title, since it is factually incorrect.

TheImpressiveX OP ,
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks, fixed.

sturmblast ,

I haven’t used Chrome in years now. Firefox has always been my home.

SteveFromMySpace ,

So what are the consequences of it being flagged? Does it change how it operates?

I don’t use chrome so it doesn’t directly impact me but I like being up-to-date on this stuff

Edit: actually read the article lol so this is related to compatibility with manifest v3

24_at_the_withers ,

“This warning isn’t just for uBlock Origin users. All extensions built on MV2 will display this warning on the Chrome extensions page if users have updated to Chrome version 127. Users of Chrome’s Beta, Dev, and Canary channels have been seeing these warnings since June 3, 2024.

Although users can temporarily re-enable their MV2 extensions, Google plans to disable these extensions gradually over the next few months. Eventually, users won’t be able to use MV2 extensions at all and will have to switch to MV3 alternatives suggested by the Chrome Web Store.”

www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/…/ar-AA1ofsSZ

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

UBlock for Chrome is going away, no matter what Google says about Manifest.

hOrni ,

I know, that some day I will have to switch to Firefox. But I’m putting it off as long as I can, as I don’t like that browser. I will have to instal a shit load of add-ons to get the customisability of Vivaldi, and I doubt k will get it all.

QuantumSoul ,

Use floorp.app/en

drathvedro ,

Do you even need uBO on vivaldi, though? A friend of mine recently had an issue of sites breaking, even with all addons disabled. As we found out, vivaldi already has a built-in adblocker, which uses pretty much the same lists as uBO. In the end it turned out to be one of the easylist’s borked rules…

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

the creator of ublock also said to chrome/chormium users to use the light v3 version is that right?

x00z ,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

The creator(s) did not give direct advise. Probably so they have the time to slowly get people to switch instead of instantly getting shut down by Google.

But people that are going to be using the lite version will definitely get bombarded by Google/Youtube ads very soon and will make the change regardless.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

oh

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