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technocrit ,

It doesn’t matter. Cars are still an unsustainable and inequitable grift destroying the planet. Just ban cars and make a million light EVs instead.

sunzu ,

Ban cars with most of the world lacking proper EV infrastructure...

This idiotic statements is how you bread opposition to the cause among working people in US who are required a car to exist

ZMonster ,
@ZMonster@lemmy.world avatar

How are they opposed to bread? It’s impossible to keep up with politics these days. And you can never tell if you’re reading an actual post or just more big leaven lobbyist propaganda.

sunzu ,

...

nevemsenki ,

Honey wake up, it’s the weekly miracle battery tech!

realitista OP ,

But now it’s actually being produced and put into products.

massive_bereavement ,

Finally I will be able to drive a thousand miles instead of walking them.

Honytawk ,

And I would walk 500 more

SaltySalamander ,

Almost downvoted you because now I have that song stuck in my head.....

shortwavesurfer ,

We are almost there. Doesn’t the average internal combustion engine car go something like 600 to 1000 miles on a tank of fuel? If so just a little bit more and the “range anxiety” argument will no longer be valid.

paf0 ,

It’s more like 300-500 miles per tank

shortwavesurfer ,

Ah, so this actually be better than ICE in range, but time to charge will be the next challenge to tackle.

Fisch ,
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I honestly think both of those “arguments” are stupid anyway, given that you can charge it at home daily. I doubt anyone driving an ICE car empties anything close to their entire fuel tank in a single day.

CrimeDad ,

A big tank in a fueled personal vehicle makes sense because you don’t want to have to stop and fill up every day. However, big battery in an EV doesn’t really make sense since it should be plugged in every day when you get home for a few hours.

moonlight ,

Exactly. I think a small, light and cheap battery plus a gas range extender for long trips makes way more sense than carrying around 2000 pounds of battery that only gets fully used once a year.

CrimeDad ,

At the very least, vehicle batteries and fuel tanks should be limited to prevent drivers from driving too long without a break. It’s kind of reckless to put 600 mile battery in a personal vehicle.

SaltySalamander ,

However, big battery in an EV doesn't really make sense since it should be plugged in every day when you get home for a few hours

Except some people actually travel. Who wants to stop and charge every 100 miles?

CrimeDad ,

Then take mass transit or get a car that runs on fuel. Having all this extra battery mass everywhere is just bad all around.

sunzu ,

I don't think most people appreciate this fact.

And the impact it will have to our roads that are already poorly maintained.

It seems we can only build infrastructure but can't fix it.

CrimeDad ,

We can barely build and deploy fast charging infrastructure. It just doesn’t make sense trying to use BEVs for long distance travel.

Contingencyfork ,

An easy way to get around this would be replaceable batteries. Like how mobile phones used to work.

Running low? Pop to the nearest charging station and swap your battery for a fully charged one. Or bring a spare. I’ve seen a video of it being done for scooters, don’t see why it can’t be scaled up for cars

SlopppyEngineer ,

One car I had I could just about reach 600 miles if driving carefully on the highway. That was a diesel with a large tank. No other car I’ve had did better. My first car has a 300 mile range.

Kanzar ,

Just a matter of faster charging, takes me maybe 5-10 minutes to fill up and pay, would take a lot longer for an EV. Certainly not an issue if every accommodation had charging points, as I’d then be unlikely to need a full charge during the day.

And yes, for regular day to day driving I would just charge at home, as I’m fortunate to have a garage. Not the case for many folks, sadly.

Definitely great news, and it’s looking good that my next car will be an EV.

Twentytwodividedby7 ,

No, it’s more like 3-400. The key point here is not the range, but the charging time

nforminvasion ,

Who’s car is only going 3 miles on a tank?

/s

mortalic ,

Indeed, I had a BMW that when it got 250 miles I was happy!

SaltySalamander ,

Doesn't the average internal combustion engine car go something like 600 to 1000 miles on a tank of fuel?

I'm guessing you don't actually drive.

shortwavesurfer ,

Na, a blind guy driving would be horrible for me and everyone else. Lol

Lojcs ,

How about phones? Surely Samsung would put their own new battery tech in their own phones right?

dabaldeagul ,
@dabaldeagul@feddit.nl avatar

Based on the article they are more expensive than li-ion batteries (for now), so probably not yet. And the article doesn’t mention anything about this, but I imagine there would be scaling issues.

Plopp , (edited )

Do you know how big and heavy that phone would be with a car battery in it?

noodlejetski ,

yeah but imagine the screen size though

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

A couple of these would be perfect for my flight sim!

Honytawk ,

You can even take it with you on the train!

lnxtx ,
@lnxtx@feddit.nl avatar

Size constrains probably.

Mihies ,

SSB can be a quite a lot denser consider to existing ones. Up to 2.5x if I recall correctly. Also less flammable.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Where would you drive in your phone, bro? Don’t be silly.

RadicalEagle ,

I don’t think solid state batteries provide as much benefit in smaller devices.

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