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olosta ,

"Gamers Nexus, on the other hand, thinks the issue is more deep rooted and originates from a foundry-level fault."

  • The GN piece makes it very clear that this claim is not definitely true but is a line of inquiry.
  • Intel statement does not definitely exclude this hypothesis, the flawed CPU might need the lower voltage to work around the flaw.
  • The obvious question this article does not address is what will be the performance hit for the patched parts?

That’s a bit annoying to see GN so grossly misquoted when Steve spends half the run time of the video explaining that they are not sure of anything at this point.

ZealousSealion ,

Steve does go on, and on, and on, and on… Quite challenging, if you have a tight deadline.

wjs018 ,

Intel confirmed on reddit that oxidation did impact some chips.

More than one thing can be wrong at the same time, so everybody can be right!

just_another_person ,

AMD stock should have gone through the roof on this news.

cmnybo ,

Nice one Intel. My next computer certainly will not contain an Intel CPU.

I wish someone would start making desktop motherboards with socketed RISC-V and ARM CPUs.

Tarball ,
cmnybo ,

That would be great for a server, but 1.7GHz is a bit slow for a desktop.

Peffse ,

My first thought went to the Milk-V Pioneer since it has mATX form factor, but both products are priced way higher than your average desktop.

milkv.io/pioneer

Tarball ,

Up to 128 cores. Not meant for gaming, but it cranks at server tasks, compiling & coding tasks, etc.

There’s a windows dev kit (ARM) that I think is 3ghz: www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-dev-kit-2023

But bleeding edge stuff from MS means likely driver issues, and this isn’t something you’ll throw a dedicated graphics card in.

Still, feels like the tide is changing away from Intel. I too was looking at “ARM for Desktop” options a couple weeks back.

aard ,
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I have a 96 core one. While it’ll be fine as a desktop for compiling I’d stick with an AMD system.

The devkit has 6 memory channels, and you’ll want to fill them all - there’s a surprisingly high performance penalty if you don’t. Even then, compiling a code base which could be spread over hundreds of cores is still significantly slower on the ampere compared to my old 3970x.

CaptDust ,

risc v wouldn’t be worth much right now but snapdragon I could see getting socketed at some point.

cyberpunk007 ,

Why I chose AMD in 2019.

ColeSloth ,

"We’re going to undervolt them. You’re stuck with the damage done, and you won’t have luck overclocking or getting as much performance from our chips.

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