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Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

  • Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder for Europol
  • PET-enabled home routing allows for secure communication, hindering law enforcement’s ability to intercept and monitor communications
  • Europol suggests solutions such as disabling PET technologies and implementing cross-border interception standards to address the issue.
doctortofu ,
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

Warning: non-transparent walls, window blinds and door locks prevent lawful interception and surveillance - how are the authorities supposed to know you’re not doing something naughty in there?

rottingleaf ,

how are the authorities supposed to know you’re not doing something naughty in there?

Humans are actually supposed to do naughty things. Otherwise they’d be worried about demography

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Clothing hides weapons! So do fat folds. Kill all the fat people and go naked for a crime free world in the new authoritarian bridge between Nazis and Stalinists for a wonderful Europe.

Vorticity ,

There are places a skinny naked person can hide things. What do we do about that?

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Kill them all. If your butt cheeks touch in the middle you get the antisemitic/Palestinian treatment. Would you like to die by rocket, bomb, on the hood of a car, as a joke, career suicide, anonymous mass grave, student failure with no future, self emulation, militant untrained police, starvation, Kremlin backed Right faction first world extremist regime mob of fucktards, or randomly one of the above? Heil Europe!

rottingleaf ,

I think they meant inside

Aceticon ,

Mandatory random cavity searches.

It’s the only way to keep society safe!

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Lol. Uh, good?

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

Came here to pose exactly this. While I support proper and ethical law enforcement, the Snowden leak clearly showed just how unethical my own government is willing to be to enforce laws. So whatever tools I have at my disposal to prevent unlawful search and seizure, I will use them.

hoshikarakitaridia ,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

lawful interception

Idk bout that. Usually you get a warrant for wiretapping and then you pay someone to install it. If they are trying to break encryption or identifying users, that means they inherently are doing something the law does not favor.

Let’s also acknowledge that if encryption is bad because it cannot be broken, that means encryption is pretty good at what it should do.

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

Ensign_Crab ,

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

DeCSS.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Everybody vote for this guy for president.

I mean really…who else are you going to vote for? Spiderman? Yeah,I would too, but we have a two term limit!

Bell ,

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

Uhhh ransomware?

KISSmyOS ,

If they are trying to break encryption or identifying users, that means they inherently are doing something the law does not favor.

They’ve been trying to change that law multiple times for over a decade.

Badeendje ,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

I read this the other day… the issue they face is on the warrant side, cross border investigations have a 120 day lead time. So instead of actually integrating police and making sure time sensitive investigations get treated as such… They whine about PET.

EuroPol seems to be something like the FBI… who operate across all US states. But in the EU the countries are still very separate and require such ridiculous things as proof and due process. And that’s fine… It just needs to be sped up.

sunbeam60 ,

Europol is merely a clearing house, standards process and coordinating agency for how national police forces work together across the EU states. It has very, very little power. Unfortunately.

insufferableninja ,

based on this article, i would say it’s fortunate that they have very little power

sunbeam60 ,

You’re assuming the national services are better, I suppose. In my experience it’s been the EU who has struck a better balance between privacy and investigative powers than the crap they’re pushing for nationally.

treadful ,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

Cracking Enigma was something that needed to been done.

hoshikarakitaridia ,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

Alright I’ll give you that

GrundlButter ,

Kinda drives home another point too. Breaking someone else’s encryption is something you do to enemies. If you’re trying to break my encryption communication or installing a backdoor, you’re an enemy, simple as that.

My eternal thanks to FOSS, and open encryption standards.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

I fixed the bulleted.

  • Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception spying on innocent civilians harder for Europol
  • PET-enabled home routing allows for secure communication, hindering preventing law enforcement’s ability to intercept and monitor spy on the communications of innocent civilians
  • Europol suggests solutions such as disabling PET technologies and implementing cross-border interception standards to address the issue of Europol not knowing how to do their jobs without resorting to Orwellian dystopian techniques
  • PET technologies does exactly what it’s intended to do–protect the innocent civilian from the prying eyes of the not innocent bodies that are hellbent on eroding privacy and security
Treczoks ,

Oh my! Encryption makes it harder to snoop uninvited into things that should not concern them in the first place! Shocking!

Vaggumon ,
@Vaggumon@lemm.ee avatar

Oh no… Anyway

febra ,

Good! The government has no business in peoples’ homes.

chaospatterns ,

For those who aren’t aware. This is talking about when cell phones roam into other networks, they now encrypt the traffic back to the home provider which means law enforcement struggle to tap it (legally or illegally).

PET is privacy enhancing technologies

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Good, privacy is why they are being used. The government has plenty of legal ways to invade a person’s privacy, perhaps they should consider using them.

DirigibleProtein ,
Lost_My_Mind ,

One of these guys went on to be a very wholesome beloved actor.

And the other…I assume is still alive.

Blackmist ,

The other one is Keanu something. He was in a terrible film about a man falling down some stairs, I think.

the_doktor ,

AWWWWW, POOR FASCISTS CAN’T HACK OUR DEVICES

Because you know that’s what it’s really about, not “lawful interception”. Fuck them.

masquenox ,

Hold on while I dig out the world’s smallest violin for them.

bitwolf ,

I don’t feel that intercepting traffic should ever be considered lawful.

If you need evidence, get a warrant, and take the equipment.

rottingleaf ,

Many people sincerely believe rules are a big thing and such organizations don’t violate those regularly. Even in the EU. Even when nobody will know.

sem ,

That’s how they used to do it, get a warrant, and wiretap landlines.

Except even back then the FBI spied on whoever they wanted, like Martin Luther King and the civil rights organizers. Always has been this way

StaySquared ,

Good. Fk off governments.

0x0 ,

Think of the children!

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