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People are getting fed up with all the useless tech in their cars — For the first time in 28 years of JD Power’s car owner survey, there is a consecutive year-over-year decline in satisfaction, wit...

People are getting fed up with all the useless tech in their cars — For the first time in 28 years of JD Power’s car owner survey, there is a consecutive year-over-year decline in satisfaction, wit…::People are dissatisfied with the technology in their cars, according to a new survey from JD Power. They especially don’t like the native infotainment systems.

TairikuOkami ,
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When you need a manual just to find out, how to turn on the radio, something is definitely wrong.

solstice ,

Yeah there’s something about choosing form over substance that triggers the shit out of me. I like nice things but easy simple user friendly designs are paramount IMO especially for something that can get multiple people killed like a car.

Related: I stayed at a fancy hotel recently and the shower had a digital control panel to turn on the water, control temperature and pressure, multiple spouts etc. Take a guess how well it worked once it got steamy.

Knobs and buttons guys, jeez.

MrBungle ,

My biggest gripe is the “safety” features that just enable bad driving. Too lazy to shoulder check? don’t worry, blinky light on the mirror has you. Don’t bother looking back when backing out? camera has you. veering off the road a bit cause you’re not paying attention? lane keep assist!
Any one of these things can fail and the shit driving habits are all some of these people have to fall back on.

Let’s go back to roll up windows, standard transmissions, and using your eyes to see where things are.

ramjambamalam ,

The ads for emergency braking are the worst, like the dad who is looking in the rearview mirror at his daughter, and then Screeeech the car slams to a hault because pops wasn’t paying attention. Everyone in the car has a sensible chuckle about it, and they go on with their day.

No: are you crazy? Wtf are you doing? You almost ran over that woman! Pay attention!

Locrin ,

What a bad take. These things are safety additions and will by responsible drivers be treated as such. Backup cameras are standard safety equipment now, do you also hate those? Shitty drivers will be shitty with or without safety precautions from a car. When one of those shitty drivers attempts to change into my lane while not checking if it is clear. At least I can hope their car prevents them from smashing into me.

MrBungle ,

That’s fair. I can understand your view.

derpysmilingcat ,

I think you forgot that people have cell phones so those who were already couldn’t drive now can’t drive with a cell phone. And they’re driving giant cars. I need their car to scream at them because I can not.

MrBungle ,

Yea. I’m diligent about the phone staying in my own pocket while I’m driving. I forget I can’t always give others the benefit of the doubt.

HurlingDurling ,

Fuck all of this, and insurance companies that want to track your driving behavior with a module installed in your car.

cyborganism ,

I have a 2009 Mazda 3 with Bluetooth connectivity and steering wheel button activated voice commands to make calls, configure the phone book and connections etc. This was the sweet spot for technology in cars in my opinion. Oh but the best part is all the dials and LCD clock are all in red light which is wonderful when driving at night.

Everything else I do via voice commands on my smartphone that’s mounted on a phone mount on my dash. Like asking for GPS navigation, playing music, sending text messages.

Nowadays the car infotainment system is trying to reproduce what your smartphone already does with controls that are less intuitive.

Also, what’s the deal with all the bright white and neon blue colors lighting up everything? Can I get a red filter for night driving maybe? Is that so hard to ask?

Matthew ,

I have the 2018 Mazda 3, and Mazda is actually still one of the better companies when it comes to the infotainment stuff. No touch screen, and the controls are in the center console, where they’re super easy to reach.

burrito ,

Mazda also has some hilarious bugs in their infotainment systems. This forced people in Western Washington to the NPR station jalopnik.com/a-weird-radio-glitch-has-mazda-owner…

survive ,

I don’t know for sure about the 3, but the CX5 and CX9 definitely have touch screens but can only be used that way when stopped. The 2018 Mazda3 smart start guide says it also works that way. My wife didn’t even realize she had a touch screen until I showed her. I had an Infiniti with touch screen and knobs and I only used the knobs, they are superior for sure.

gendulf ,

2016 Mazda 3 does indeed have a touch screen, but not really, because like you said, can only be used when stopped. Knob control otherwise, which works fantastic.

solivine ,
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how much money does your car typically take to repair and how often?

gendulf ,

I have a 2016 Mazda 3, and agree. I don’t want a BS touch screen. I want intuitive controls that work without me having to look at a screen. The knob control is amazing.

time_fo_that ,

Yeah my 2011 BMW has Bluetooth for calls/music streaming, and a navigation system that I can split screen so I’ve got a mini map showing the names of upcoming cross streets next to my music info. It’s pretty much all I need and works great.

dunestorm ,
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The only tech I want in my car is satellite navigation, Bluetooth audio and Bluetooth calling support. Anything else is fluff.

Getawombatupya ,

Reverse camera is nice, too

cpo ,

I used to be a techie, but my Nissan leaf of 2018 does not seem to work with Android auto for more than 20 seconds.

And then there is the native system. It’s ugly, it’s slow. And it does not even update.

This is my last Nissan…

arc ,

What boils my blood is infotainment systems with icons and functionality for premium services that you can’t hide or remove. It wastes space and it’s just evil. I rented a Toyota Rav4 in Florida and I swear 1/4 of the front screen was for some satellite radio service that wasn’t enabled.

DietBajaBlast ,

Blank switches in vehicles has been a thing for 50 years.

gendulf ,

I’d say the problem is really the lack of tactile feedback. A touchscreen requires your eyes to use, while a dial with blanks just requires your touch to skip past the blanks. It’s not impossible to memorize how many services to skip past, just made worse.

rustyriffs , (edited )

I guess I like the idea of having tech in my vehicle, but it doesn’t work right. I’ve found so many flaws in the software that can’t be remedied. It’s not designed with user control/customization as the main priority. Furthermore, it’s tied to main functionality of the vehicle which is restrictive in what it allows you to do upgrade wise.

As an audio enthusiast, it sucks that I can’t upgrade my stereo/audio system.

What would be ideal in my world is open, user focused technology, upgradeable and repairable, and not this proprietary bullshit that we currently have. This is not intelligent design.

Also, while I’m thinking about it, it’s bullshit that we are forced into these operating systems. Uconnect is garbage. Just give me stock android, with the ability to do what I want to with the hardware in the way that I see fit. The responsibility, freedom, and trust of the consumer has been predetermined. I don’t like that.

funchords ,
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As an audio enthusiast, it sucks that I can’t upgrade my stereo/audio system.

Exactly! I can have the system I want but having it somehow means no heated seats in the winter.

BigilusDickilus ,

I have a 2023 Tuscon and I love it. The car drives incredibly smoothly, the handling is amazing, I spend about $30 a month on gas total (hybrid), it practically drives itself on the highway, and its a super comfortable and spacious interior. That being said, I do wish it had more physical buttons on the console, I think they are going back to that in the future, but I can easily live with how it is now, I just dont really fiddle with things while I am driving.

DeanFogg ,

Digital touch screen ac controls make me furious

asparagus9001 ,

I’ll be praying for you when the wave of recalls start coming out

doktorRobot ,

My problem with it is that “standards” aren’t really standards. I have a car from 2015. It has an LCD panel that’s supposed to connect to your phone. Too bad that the standards changed in 2015… Now it sits there totally useless.

TrenchcoatFullofBats ,

Heh - my car from 2006 has 2 SD card slots behind the radio/nav screen for my MP3 and M4A files.

I also ripped out the CD changer for a BT integration, but I still use the SD cards sometimes.

Tebza255 ,

I don’t have a problem with Auto Technology, but I have a problem with a small minor feature that has nothing to do with moving a car having an ability to disable the car completely.

InFerNo , (edited )

My car is 17 years old. It won’t be long before I need to look out for a new one. Posts like these make me wary of buying a new one.

What would annoy me the most is having little to no physical buttons for trivial things, and the built in SBC to be slow as fuck. I hate lag on these systems. My wife has a smaller car with android auto and using the interface is just dreadful.

If there would be an electric car with the interior of my current car I would probably take it. It has a small chromosone display, just replace with a color one and let me control it with android auto and done.

Locrin ,

Buying a car should be a fun experience. Book a few testdrives and try to enjoy the experience. When looking for a new car there has always been several I disliked, but I always found one or two that felt comfortable in.

Hazdaz ,

I have always seen the new car buying experience to be something to get excited about… except now. I am at the early stages of looking at what I want to replace my dairy driver with and like NOTHING is really calling to me. At this stage in the past, I would have already driven a couple of cars simply to take them off my shopping list or keep them on, and I haven’t bothered to test drive a single car yet.

Locrin ,

What have you tried driving so far?

folshost ,

Posts like these make you wary of buying a new one. At this point I see this so regularly though that I don’t know if the usage is even wrong given how many people use it

JigglySackles ,

A lot of people use it wrong. Wary would be acceptable. Leery would be acceptable as well. Both mean cautious or suspicious. Weary equates to tired and doesn’t fit the context.

scottywh ,

It’s still wrong… Don’t let the “language evolves” people convince you otherwise.

mun_man ,

I think if you shop around you can get the kind of interface you want. I got a 2021 Subaru and they had just switched back to more actual buttons and knobs because people didn’t like the capacitive buttons and touchscreen. In my car it has a touchscreen for CarPlay so basically just maps and music and everything else is a knob or physical button. Things may have changed since too so ymmv. Good luck

dman87 ,

Your comment about Subaru is not true across the board. I have a 2023 Ascent that has very limited physical buttons. The same infotainment system and setup is now on the Outback as well.

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    dogslayeggs ,

    I read an article about how much gas it saved over a long period of time and it was a trivial amount.

    Nearly every article I can find says they save around 3% with air conditioning on when it’s warm and around 10% with AC off or when AC isn’t very active. Saving 10% of fuel is really good over the life of a car. Saving 3% isn’t much over the life of a car for you, but it’s huge when multiplied by a few billion cars worldwide.

    Blamemeta ,

    The problem is that backup camera’s are mandated safety equipment, and that means a screen. And if you have to put in a screen and all that infrastructure anyway, it’s only a few more dollars to add a proper infotainment system.

    HeyJoe ,

    I lost the key to my car since last August and just found it a few months ago. Car needed a bunch of work since it had some problems and just got it back on the road this week. They finally canceled work from home so I needed the car. I have been using my wife’s since we both really didn’t need it much at the same time. Anyway my car is an 07 basic model car and hers is from 2015 and has a backup camera. Going back to my car is crazy just because of how used to the backup camera I had gotten. I immediately look to my center console area and go oh yeah… I then wondered just how many people have the issue of going backwards with car technology like I did!

    dogslayeggs ,

    I’d had backup cameras in my cars for 6 years, and my girlfriend’s car that I drive a lot has one, too. My current car is a 2011 work truck with roll up windows and no power locks. It has AM/FM with no tape, CD, or screen for a backup camera.

    I definitely miss the backup camera going from her car to my truck.

    Kecessa ,

    Backup camera and more buttons than you’ll ever need

    cars.usnews.com/…/2016_volvo_xc60_dashboard.jpg

    I love my car.

    vaultdweller013 ,

    Okay a bit off topic but am I the only one who thinks that car companies are hiding bad design with back up cams? Like I feel like thats part of the reason why cars are getting bigger, cause they don’t need to make everything easy to see from the drivers seat.

    collegefurtrader ,

    Our Subaru nags you to check your text messages constantly while driving. Can’t be disabled if you want to use carplay.

    dogslayeggs ,

    Every time I’ve connected my phone through Carplay I have to explicitly give the car permission to access my texts. If you refuse that permission, does the car still nag you about texts?

    EDIT: Maybe it’s only Android Auto that makes you explicitly give the car access to texts. I don’t remember if my Apple workphone asks for permission.

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