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FellowEarthling , in overwatch 2 a few hours after launch

I’m not fan of this game, but this is an obvious review bomb and IMO makes people look silly

li10 ,

All new releases get scores that don’t reflect what people actually think of the game.

That being said, mostly negative does seem to line up with what people think of the game from what I’ve heard…

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

Shit game getting shit reviews. That's literally the system doing its job.

FellowEarthling ,

No one should be reviewing a game 2h after release

Pat ,

The game has been out for quite some time now. It's only just arrived on Steam. Battle.net had no way to post game reviews, so now everyone is giving their opinion since they have the platform.

Just because the game is new on steam, it doesn't mean the game is actually new. People finally have the ability to let Blizzard know what they actually think, and they're doing just that.

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

Overwatch 2/Initial release date October 4, 2022

FellowEarthling ,

a few hours after launch

scriblemelego ,

It’s been out for a while now, this is just the steam release

FellowEarthling ,

I understand that

scriblemelego ,

Then what’s your point lol

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe you never saw the law where it says if you use Steam, you can’t play games through any other launcher, system, or website? /s

schnokobaer ,

Loool

fartsparkles , (edited )

I’ve played around 1000h of OW2 alone and I’ve since given up on the game and would give it an honestly negative review.

It’s a shadow of its former self, unbalanced, full of toxic players, and full of predatory MTX and pay to win unless you grind obscene amounts (it was not having a battle pass that made me quit, having run out of the coins I’d earned and been given for stupidly preordering OW2 - the time sink to get a single skin is ridiculous).

1/3 games you have to deal with other players being racist, homophonic, antisemitic, and just generally abusive. This was so much less of an issue in OW1 I can only assume the influx of free players paired with brain drain at Blizzard has caused this and there’s no sign of improvement.

FellowEarthling ,

Ok but is this a freah review after playing it on Steam? So you do this with all games? Carrying your grudge from platform to platform to make sure it’s thoroughly shit on?

pory ,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the same game with the same microtransactions and the same community and the same devs. It’s totally valid to leave your negative review on Steam. Nothing he said is fixed by launching the game through steam, lol.

FellowEarthling ,

Might as well take your game grudges to the grave

I_Has_A_Hat ,

I really don’t think you’re grasping what’s happening here. This is not a new game. No development went into making it available on steam. When you open it in steam, it opens the battle.net launcher. It is literally the same game.

Imagine there’s a food truck around your neighborhood that has given people food poisoning and is known for having poor quality. Now imagine they move the truck to an adjacent neighborhood. Does that change anything about it? Are people’s complaints about the truck suddenly invalid? Should they just get over it and stop holding a grudge?

FellowEarthling ,

Poison… yeah totally valid comparison. Not exaggerated at all.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Ok, change food poisoning to just bad tasting. What about my analogy changes?

You either have realized you’re wrong and are grasping at straws to pretend otherwise, or you’re just an idiot. So which is it?

FellowEarthling , (edited )

Lots has changed, now it’s just petty. Why are you spending your time going to every platform because of one bad taste? It’s not like people were being poisoned after all.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Name one thing that’s changed by it coming on to steam. Other than it’s availability on steam. Please, go on.

FellowEarthling ,

The analogy changed, they’re it’s a big difference between rallying because people are being poisoned and rallying because you don’t like a flavor.

Pat ,

Dude it's literally the exact same game, with a different launcher.

Any complaints from within the past few months are still entirely valid. This isn't a review bomb in a sense of a brand new game comes out and people shit all over it because the dev said or did something stupid. This is people finally giving feedback they've wanted to give for awhile, but couldn't give in official channels until now.

mrbubblesort ,
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Mate, it's literally the same game that's been out for almost a year. There's nothing fresh to review, and the only platform it was on before didn't allow reviews. It was incomplete shit then, it's incomplete shit now, so it's getting exactly what it deserves.

FellowEarthling ,

It’s been out a lot longer than that, everyone knows it’s just 1.5, I still think it’s unethical to review on a platform you haven’t played

Warchortle ,

Its identical to the game on Battle.net its THE EXACT SAME GAME. He has played it. Just because he didn’t launch it through steam doesn’t mean he didn’t play it.

FellowEarthling ,

Do you buy something at the grocery store and not like it? So you then go onto walmart.com, amazon, bestbuy.com, etc etc etc and review it on each? IMO it’s a retty waste of your time and your voice. Move on.

mrbubblesort ,
@mrbubblesort@kbin.social avatar

If it's shitty enough, yes. I'll go to reddit or kbin or wherever and tell people it's shit. That's what reviews are man.

FellowEarthling ,

Touch grass maybe

mrbubblesort ,
@mrbubblesort@kbin.social avatar

Someone who hasn't learned the difference between a platform and a product is telling people to touch grass. Interesting 🤔

FellowEarthling ,

What are you even trying to say?

Fubar91 ,

My dude, its the same platform. Its the battle.net launcher. Now you can just buy it through steam and launch battle.net from steam without just adding it as a “non steam game”.

The reviews are 100% valid. Hows it devalidate a users gameplay experience becuase the battle.net app launches from steam all of a sudden?

I launch my battle.net client from steam for all my battle.net games via “adding non-steam game”.

How is that unethical in any manor?

NightOwl ,

If a game is able to get 1000 hours of engagement isn’t it actually pretty good? I don’t have a game I’ve put that many hours into.

Did something drastically change X hours into Overwatch 2 that changed it from a game that could be played for that many hours into a not recommend?

fartsparkles ,

You can lose 1000h to heroin too and I’m sure many recovering addicts wouldn’t give it a good review.

What changed was when I realized the experience for non-battle pass holders when I finally ran out of coins to buy it since I got a load by preordering and earned a few coins playing with the battle pass.

Without it, the game is a grind with little reward and skins can be €20. And when others have the latest hero that you have to grind for a month playing several hours a day to get, it’s incredibly predatory.

Burnt ,

While I agree with a lot of what you said, how is it in any way pay to win? You can carry and win a match with any hero.

I’d also say it’s in a fairly balanced state at the moment. I’ve seen way worse metas over the years…like GOATS or double shields

quams69 , in overwatch 2 a few hours after launch

“critically acclaimed” yeah acclaimed to be shit

Terr ,

Critics love it, players hate it!

Khotetsu ,

Click here to find out this one neat trick to maximize the exploitation of your consumers!

CluckN , in overwatch 2 a few hours after launch

I’m out of the loop, I thought it was already out due to them cutting out the PvE content.

Monkeydduffy ,

Launch on Steam

GeekFTW ,
@GeekFTW@kbin.social avatar

It's been out for a bit, but they just launched it on Steam as well. Was formerly just via Battle.net.

ox0r , in overwatch 2 a few hours after launch
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Why?

PostMalort ,

If I had to guess it’s the microtransactions designed to squeeze every cent from their players. This game has an insane cost and it’s not just cosmetics. They lock characters behind microtransactions. I bought overwatch one, they ended it, and have me Overwatch 2: athe Money Grab!

regulatorg ,

Its true that 1-2 of the new hero's in the past could be unlocked instantly with money but apart from that you don't need to spend a cent

whatisallthis ,

Sure but you can just as easily spend zero cents in other games and get 10x the content.

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

Not to mention if you bought Overwatch 1 they removed the entire game. It's just gone. I liked the first one but greed killed the game.

brihuang95 ,
@brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

wait they just removed the game?? like no one can play it anymore?

AFLYINTOASTER ,

Correct. OW2 is basically bolted on top of OW1, so OW1 doesn’t exist anymore.

Entheogen ,

OW2 is OW1. They just added a couple maps, removed some maps, took away a tank, and filled it full of grind and micro transactions. Absolutely no reason for “2”.

GreenMario ,

Think they had to cuz they “promised” not to charge for heroes.

They wanted to, and that required a “2”.

TheFriendlyDickhead ,

Yes absolutely. It’s just a realy big patch with some reworks. Honestly I realy don’t know what took them so long to finish it.

LimitedDuck ,

The OW1 client is gone, but Blizz migrated most things to OW2. The exceptions were the team size (changed from 6v6 to 5v5) and 1 match type (1 type dropped with 2 new types added). Collectibles and anything that could be purchased was also migrated from 1 to 2.

ox0r ,
@ox0r@jlai.lu avatar

Oh

So pretty much standard blizzard now

nachobel ,

Activizzard

blakeus12 ,
@blakeus12@hexbear.net avatar

oh yeah they also abandoned the first game that was already good to make a campaign then cancelled the campaign at the last second and nobody can play the first one anymore.

capt_wolf ,
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar

I tried the game during the recent DnD event last month after a couple years away. Hadn’t played since loot boxes were still a thing, where I was literally playing daily since release. Stopped because the player base was becoming almost as toxic as LoL. Also, the overnight nerfing made things so different that I couldn’t use my mains effectively anymore.

My experience with the new game? It’s a great wait in line simulator with a terrible deathmatch game getting in the way!

  1. Join a queue
  2. Wait at least 5-10 minutes for a match to open up.
  3. Match ends 1 minute later, my team loses
  4. Everyone leaves match, I’m kicked back to lobby
  5. Rejoin queue…

This is fun?

Game’s dead right now.

They just invited steam users to the funeral.

AClassyGentleman , (edited )

Full disclaimer: I fell off Overwatch years ago, so this is just stuff I’ve picked up reading general game news, so I’m sure others will be more in-tune with what’s up but here’s an overview, at least:

So first off OW2 as a thing was always kind of bizarre. When it was a battle(dot)net exclusive, it was free if you owned 1, and straight-up automatically replaced OW1 in your library. It behaved like an update would for any other game, and that’s because it kinda just was a big update to the game. Naturally there’s some back and forth about if the gameplay changes are good or not, but the big issue is monetization.

So, when OW1 came out, they explicitly said that all content updates (basically things other than skins) would be free, including new characters, maps, etc. However, since OW2 was a “new” game, there was no risk of legal issues around false advertising if they were to start charging for new characters, which is exactly what they did. New characters now had to be unlocked via the battle pass (or purchased individually, I assume) in order to be playable, which obviously rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. (I vaguely remember this maybe being walked back to some degree after backlash, but I’m not sure one way or the other).

And all of this comes as Activision/Blizzard is going through a genuinely horrific series of scandals around workplace conditions. Like, there’s genuinely too much to list here but famously, one of the OW characters was renamed since he was originally named after an employee who turned out to be a huge sexual abuser. There’s report after report coming out on an almost daily basis, and it’s abundantly clear that management (including infamous shitbag CEO Bobby Kotik) are intentionally trying to cover things up. Genuinely mind-boggling. At this point, it also becomes abundantly clear that ActiBlizz management is using OW as a distraction from the negative press they’re getting, regularly announcing new updates or “progressive” (big air quotes due to the extreme cynical corporate nature) character details within hours of major scandals breaking.

So you’ve got all that on top of the usual toxicity that tends to form around competitive games if left unchecked. It’s kind of a mess.

BB69 ,

New characters are free. You just have to hit level 45 or 55 (I don’t remember, I haven’t played in awhile).

Or if you plop 10 bucks down on battle pass you get it immediately.

People overreact about the character thing. You can’t even use them in comp for a few weeks after they launch, but have access in training area to at least get a feel for it

GorbinOutOverHere ,

They were going to do some pve bullshit and that was literally the only justification they had for making overwatch 2 to begin with instead of just expanding on overwatch 1 and then they were like “yeah we’re not doing that pve thing” so yea

Oha , in pain
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Hes just trying to help :(

B3_CHAD , in Overwatch 2 is the first game I see that does not have an Artwork page... I wonder why.
@B3_CHAD@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Rule 34.

CorrodedCranium , in Overwatch 2 is the first game I see that does not have an Artwork page... I wonder why.
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SaintWacko ,

Mainly distributed by the CIA?

ChamrsDeluxe ,
@ChamrsDeluxe@lemmy.world avatar

The CIA responsible for both.

Chariotwheel ,

Bless the CIA then.

Psythik , in Overwatch 2 is the first game I see that does not have an Artwork page... I wonder why.

Since when is Overwatch on Steam?

scala ,

Since blizzard is desperate for players to return after each consecutive backlash.

avater ,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

also because of the microsoft deal. Microsoft has acknowledged that the move to host games exclusively on BattleNet has failed and I think as soon as the deal is done, more and more games will move back to steam completely.

Chariotwheel ,

Also, Microsoft really wants to show right now that they're not gating plattforms.

worfamerryman ,

It’s a very very recent thing. But I think it still launches the blizzard launcher.

Steam should have a rule against that tbh.

Nefyedardu ,

It doesn't. You link your Steam account and it's 100% through Steam after that. No offense but why don't you just spend the 20 seconds to Google it rather than spreading false info...

worfamerryman ,

I’ll pass that along to the other person who posted this instead of taking 20 seconds to google it.

Tag365 ,
@Tag365@lemmy.zip avatar

You don’t “Google” something, you search it online…

HellAwaits ,

But I think it still launches the blizzard launcher.

Uh no it doesn’t. A 5 second google search could’ve told you that.

worfamerryman ,

Well I did say, “I think…”

warmaster ,

Since yesterday. Works great on Proton experimental. Even better than on Bottles or Lutris.

Astroturfed ,

Since the player base quit.

Corvid , in Overwatch 2 is the first game I see that does not have an Artwork page... I wonder why.

Look at the Nier Automata artwork page, that’s why 😳

mihnt ,
@mihnt@kbin.social avatar

That's...their point.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

That’s…a bit different. Iirc the director basically tell his fans to send him those artwork. Dude planned the whole thing.

Murvel ,

What, did the dude 4D chess himself a r34 generator?

Cypher ,

He likes going to cons and seeing how much effort fans put into their cosplay.

Truly a man of culture.

Chariotwheel ,

He likes big butts and he can not lie.

WaLLy3K ,
@WaLLy3K@infosec.pub avatar

YOko’s Really Hot Androids

xavier666 ,

Virgin Blizzard VS Chad Nier Director

NuPNuA ,

Non American developers seem far more open to sexy characters or exploring sexual themes in games. Look at all the action in BG3 recently, and that’s a Belgian title, CDPR in Poland with Cyberpunk, Japan in general. I don’t know if it’s a cultural thing holding back US Devs or that silly Adults Only rating that means no one will carry the game, but it’s holding back the medium.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

European tend to be open minded like that. Japan might be one of the few outlier in Asia.

p03locke ,
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The main character is dressed up in a maid outfit with a short skirt. I don’t know what anybody was expecting.

Also, 3D porn artists are just looking for models to pose, and there’s not a lot of good ones to choose from.

shastaxc , in I'm in this picture and I don't like it

Are you one of the squiggly lines or the straight black ones?

Guster , in I'm in this picture and I don't like it

I don’t know why I bother upgrading my PC when I’m still playing 10 year old games

Piemanding ,

So you can click on that game 10 seconds faster.

doingthestuff ,

Also I can finally max out the settings on that 10-year-old game and do it at 4K/120.

Jaysyn , in I'm in this picture and I don't like it
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

I feel attacked.

mojo , in I'm in this picture and I don't like it

one day you’ll get to your back log. I’m sure of it!

Comment105 ,

Heaven is a temporary afterlife that is long enough for you to play through your backlog, as the afterlife ends when you decide you’ve played enough and want to be done.

So by the name of GabeN, let thine backlog grow full and large! Enrich your divine recreation before your final rest.

PeterPoopshit , (edited ) in I'm in this picture and I don't like it

Computer parts are expensive. My pc specs are more of a downward graph. ddr3 ftw. Am4 b550 stuff isn’t good enough to warrant an upgrade and b650 motherboards with their stupid overpriced ddr5 ram are too expensive to be worth it.

I already have ddr4 ram from my “old” but newer motherboard that stopped working (before someone points out ram prices and is like uhm ACKTUALLY)

sma3in , in I'm in this picture and I don't like it
@sma3in@lemmy.world avatar

My computer fan when I decide to play games

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keenkoon OP ,

lol

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