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ummthatguy , in "Red Directive" & "Under The Twin Moons" — Star Trek: Discovery Episode Discussion
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Just working my way through the premier, but had to stop and remark upon the wonder of the everlasting…

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ee5a2326-ca96-4915-a719-690680dcfebe.jpeg

Self-sealing stembolt! Captain Nog would be proud.

Further report/discussion pending.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Yes! I loved that it really looked exactly like the ones in DS9!

shish_mish , in Today is First Contact Day! What do we need to do between now and April 5th, 2063 to make sure we impress the Vulcans?
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I think stopping killing each other should be on there.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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That’s… Probably a big one.

Klear ,

Backup plan… impress Klingons?

Or at least Romulans?

BigMikeInAustin ,

“Today is a good day to die.”

BigMikeInAustin ,

Actually, i don’t think enough people have honor for us to impress the Klingons. And they will likely find us too fat and weak to even keep around as labor.

UESPA_Sputnik , in Today is First Contact Day! What do we need to do between now and April 5th, 2063 to make sure we impress the Vulcans?
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Create more memes.

Lemming421 , in Today is First Contact Day! What do we need to do between now and April 5th, 2063 to make sure we impress the Vulcans?
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Stop being so hopelessly capitalist.

Stop voting for fascists.

Stop doing genocides.

Stop using fossil fuels.

Not necessarily in that order.

BigMikeInAustin , in Today is First Contact Day! What do we need to do between now and April 5th, 2063 to make sure we impress the Vulcans?

Seriously, it’s that soon? Theoretically I could live until then. Assuming I survive the 2 or 3 world devastating wars that are in the timeline.

Everythingispenguins ,

And the Bell Riots

shnizmuffin , in Today is First Contact Day! What do we need to do between now and April 5th, 2063 to make sure we impress the Vulcans?
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Achieve warp.

Everythingispenguins ,

Really this is the only thing necessary

GuyFleegman OP , (edited ) in "Red Directive" & "Under The Twin Moons" — Star Trek: Discovery Episode Discussion

Well, that was certainly an episode of Star Trek: Discovery. Actually, it might be one of Discovery’s most representative episodes.

Discovery at its worst: geez that warp chase scene was awful. It wasn’t a great use of How We Got Here because there wasn’t enough time between the flashback and the redux to make the flashback seem justified—the bulk of the episode happened after the redux anyways. It wasn’t a great use of Once More With Clarity, either. I guess they were going for some sort of dramatic Rayner reveal? But, the “revelation” that the Antares was shadowing Burnham that whole time wasn’t particularly interesting. Nothing was gained by temporally displacing that scene other than frontloading the action, which makes it seem like Discovery is scared to lead with a character moment or a story beat, as if their mentality is “we gotta get to the pew pew ASAP because that’s why the audience is here.”

It felt unearned, and was just another instance of Discovery borrowing things from better shows without adding anything or seemingly even understanding why what they borrowed worked in a different context. And of course, this teed up one of Discovery’s most obnoxious long-running tropes: Burnham knows she’s right and spends a few minutes exasperatedly explaining to an unwelcome guest with equivalent or higher authority than her to no avail. The thing that’s always weird about these scenes is the way Burnham keeps going even after it’s become very clear that the person she’s trying to convince isn’t having it. At that point, focus on getting into the ship, don’t continue the argument! These scenes always feel like Burnham is trying to make sure that the viewer knows she’s right rather than the other character.

I know she’s right. She’s always right.

Discovery at its best: The scene where Discovery and Antares save the settlement on Q’mau. This had all the bits and pieces of a classic Trek triumph: the heroes put the mission, their ships, and themselves at risk to save innocent lives because it’s the right thing to do and ultimately save the day thanks to quick thinking, creativity, and Starfleet’s engineering prowess. This was actually the only sequence in the episode where the Burnham-Rayner interaction worked: Rayner’s calculated risk paid off but introduced a new complication, but Rayner was also pretty quick to concede that “ok yeah, to hell with this ‘Red Directive’ nonsense, innocent lives are at stake” and ceded authority to Burnham.

Visually, seeing Discovery and Antares literally shield the settlement was fantastic. The detail on the shields stopping the rockslide was great fun to watch. These have always been my favorite Discovery moments: classic Trek formula with modern effects and pacing.

Why I’m worried: Rayner. One of Discovery’s quirks has always been what I call “the interloper,” an external authority figured foisted onto the cast to either foil or assist Burnham depending on which direction the story needs to turn. Lorca and Pike were more pronounced instances of this quirk than Vance and Rilliak were, but all four seasons have done it.

Our season 5 interloper looks to be Rayner, and it looks like Rayner is going to be as prominent as Lorca and Pike were. And boy, I didn’t find Rayner to be interesting or compelling at all. I’ve worked with far too many “I’m allowed to be a jerk because I’m right” types to be entertained by them, particularly when played straight. I really hope they do something more novel with Rayner, and quickly.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Agree with most of it. That intro with Michael riding on that ship at warp is exactly why I don’t like Discovery all that much. It’s always Michael, it’s got to be Michael. Plus the way this was used as you pointed out was just not good.

Also the reasoning to get Tilly back on board later, eh, don’t know, why not I guess. But why park a character at the academy teaching if you just get her back later with some half-baked excuse.

Same for Rayner, he has been retired as a Captain, despised working with Michael but of course she can persuade him to work as her Number One? Really? Sorry, but that does not make sense to me. I like him as a character though, so not too unhappy he sticks around.

But Michaels monologue about the progenitors at the beginning of episode 2 just nailed it in terms of what is not good about Discovery. Of course Michael recently thought about her existence, of course she has the drive to now look for answers the questions, but what if she does not understand. Always her her her. None of the other characters seem to matter.

I am quite excited they revive that progenitors plot from TNG, it is good material. However I am worried they only did so since they saw this is what saved Picard Season 03, fan service by bringing back as much TNG as necessary. So we will see. Cautiously optimistic, but it is still the Discovery that I don’t quite like.

Chainweasel , in Today is First Contact Day! What do we need to do between now and April 5th, 2063 to make sure we impress the Vulcans?

We need to get WWIII over with first

az04 , in "Red Directive" & "Under The Twin Moons" — Star Trek: Discovery Episode Discussion

Pretty standard DIS episode, awith fate-of-the-galaxy stakes. The action scenes are always so boring, let’s see some puzzle cracking! Also, if your Captain is constantly running point on away missions, they might be a thrill seeker. Beware the cliff edges.

gregorum , (edited ) in "Red Directive" & "Under The Twin Moons" — Star Trek: Discovery Episode Discussion

A bit late to the discussion, but here’s my take:

For those unfamiliar with my opinions of DSC, one may go down that rabbit hole here.

Suffice it to say, DSC S05 isn’t something I lament because it’s the last season, but because it lasted so long. This show is shit, and ENT was better yet didn’t even get a fifth season. Not a single actor in this show could carry Scott Bakula’s left nut, but I digress…

So, The first episode opens with The Queers™ discussing how wtf the drinks are and how they’re totally over this dumb party. Hashtag me too, bitches. FINALLY! Some fucking authentic LGBTQ+ representation in this show! Especially when Rapp— err… Stamets debates whether to leave when his honorific gets downgraded from “Center of the Universe” to merely “Scientific Luminary” because his Very Special Project gets sidelined for being 900 years out-of-date. Boo-hoo, honey. I guess you’ll just have to find something else to be amazing at, which should take you all of an act break.

And then Saru and no-longer-called-Vulcan lady share a nice moment. Then they kinda break up in a flurry of dumb writing. Because Discovery is stupid.

The only other thing worth mentioning from the next 2 episodes is Callum Rennie who’s prolly in his 60s now, but damn is he rocking that hot zaddy energy. And those pointy ears are really doing it for me. Yum.

The show is still shit, tho, and poking at the memberberries with a 24th century Romulan scout ship, a Progenitors treasure hunt, and a Data knock-off isn’t doing the show any favors. It just reminds us all how much better TNG was than this show and how much we’d rather be watching that show than this one.

Tolookah , in The Final Frontier in Flavorful Coffee is Here

They… They didn’t mention Janeway.

kellyaster ,
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Yeah, it’s bizarre they even focused on TOS when Janeway is the obvious choice. It’s still cool, but it feels like a missed opportunity.

RootBeerGuy , (edited ) in "Jinaal" — Star Trek: Discovery Episode Discussion
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Mmh, overall still a bit meh.

Tilly was a bit too much with Raynor. I get she wants him to connect but also he is a commanding officer and he got the gist of many crew members in a short time. Maybe this is supposed to be a joke on how much emotional talking there is in Disco?

Grey/Gray(?) is a bit annoying. Basically forcing it out of Adira to break up. I guess that means no more of them going forward. Hope Adira finds someone else to be happy with.

I am glad they talked about the fact the Trill dude could have just given away the position of the tech instead of sending them off on the riddles. But honestly, I don’t get how those scientists had all these precautions and then still felt like, yes, some day the universe will be ready and not abuse this tech. Destruction of the tech makes a lot more sense. But maybe they’ll clear that up.

Edit:oh and wtf was that scene at the end in the caves. The actually nice monologue but all the guardians and Adira just weirdly standing there while the monologue is going. Then only at the end we see they released that symbiont into the pool, like no explanation at all what that is for. Is it going to die? Is that always done? Did the host just die during the last minutes of the show? Give some background please!

ummthatguy ,
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To your edit: It seems like some cut content that would better explain Kalzara’s parting words “Thank you, for now I can rest,” the Tilly/Raynor scene, and hastily followed by the pool ceremony. I can get unexplained world building, as with Mad Max: Fury Road (the random mud stilt walkers, for example). 30 seconds of “I’ve fulfilled my sworn duty and will no longer be joined” might have sufficed. This was “Reel 3 missing” kind of messy. Still intrigued by the overall story, just a little let down by the execution.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Agreed!

GuyFleegman OP , in "Jinaal" — Star Trek: Discovery Episode Discussion

After four seasons, Discovery still can’t figure out how to pace a full season arc. The A-plot was a miniature Humanity on Trial story which Trek has done to death, and the rest was filler.

Jinaal was a fun character and Wilson Cruz did a great job with him. “This guy really works out” made me laugh. Beyond that, sheesh, what a snooze.

ummthatguy , in Paramount Pictures Officially Confirms Star Trek Origin Movie For Its Upcoming Film Slate
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Lemmeenym , in Paramount Pictures Officially Confirms Star Trek Origin Movie For Its Upcoming Film Slate

As a fitting omage it should be narrated by Jonathan Franks.

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