Should it still be considered breaking the Prime Directive if you are fixing/adjusting the work of another advanced culture which previously infected a world’s advancement and beliefs? Also, for it to have been perpetrated by the Denobulans is just upsetting. On “Dear Doctor” (ENT s1e13) Dr. Phlox, a Denobulan, explains how the actions of Archer’s crew would drastically change the historical and cultural outcome of a planet.
Yea generally, AFAICT, it’s a problem with Discovery that the writers tried to be just a bit more “present”. Same with the Stacey Abrams cameo that was just a bit too “front and center” when it would have worked better in the background. I get it, it’s weird for TNG era starfleet to all be into classical music and jazz and Leonardo Da Vinci (Janeway), but you know, it prevents it from aging in the long run.
It’s difficult to even evaluate this level of complaint against Discovery when there are so many more fundamental issues with the writing . Like yeah okay this is fair criticism but I would care a lot more if it was well written to begin with.
It’s really a pile of garbage. And I’m angry at myself for watching so much of it. It’s clearly not written by anybody interested in the star trek universe.
My go-to example is also this one episode where one young character decides to from now on go by the pronouns “they/them”. I’m all for the inclusion of nonbinary characters - that’s what star trek always stood for - inclusion and the shared humanity that we all have. But that episode had basically nothing else going for it and the pronouns were the plot.
The new, great series “strange new worlds” on the other hand had a great episode with a very interesting non binary character (that BTW never was explicitly pointed out as one) who helped spock deal with his own problems of navigating his own two identities (human/vulcan). It was so clever and the nonbinaryness was integral, to the plot, but it wasn’t the plot. The actual plot was that the non binary character basically fooled everyone and turned out the villain. It’s such a great comparison between those two series. One makes a compelling show and the other one has nothing to say other than ticking a list of “woke” virtue signalling points.
well discovery criticism is well trodden by now and I didn’t want to trigger a dive into it (which I say as a Disco critic). This part though, however minor it might seem, I think goes beyond being a critique of the show and more of a strong lesson that writers should know and shouldn’t fuck around with, especially in sci-fi.
It may also highlight how Disco writers are maybe just not good trek writers and maybe didn’t get the show … where it’s not so much about the “right now” like social media but about the bigger questions of the present.
That also could potentially be justified by the fact that the US still has places named after Confederate generals though it’s harder to lock down as any sort of positive thing.
I’m thinking this is bad for Star Trek no matter what, because the first thing these entertainment companies do when they buy each other is cut budgets and cut projects.
Anyway, my opinion is firmly that if they’re going to make references, it needs to be about people who are already dead, whose negatives are known, and who can’t come back and fuck your reference up by becoming a horrible person as your life goes on.
Definitely. You save yourself a lot of trouble if you wait until they’re dead before you praise them, politics wise.
Because these living people keep revealing how Un-Star-Trek they are, imho.
Nothing breaks immersion more than something that is very un-Star Trek like being shown in Star Trek.
I still like the season, but some of the writing is just so weird.
Like having Tilly instead of Michael finish the race. I know its a throwback to when they practised running in the first season, but its a physical test and Michael is surely in better shape than Tilly. It would have been so easy to get around that by just making Michael drink the water because she can’t take it anymore.
And finally we see why the doc keeps talking about his abuela every second scene he is in this season. She is now a hologram. I am guessing this is setting something up, new tech that reads your mind and makes a convincing hologram of someone you know. Surely that won’t be abused.
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