EDitor wars

PaX , 30 days ago

Ed is the standard text editor.

vext01 , 30 days ago

This is correct.

lengau , 30 days ago

They don’t call it a viitor or an emacsitor. It’s an EDitor!

TruePe4rl , 20 days ago

Simple and gets the job done. How do you exit it though?

PaX , 20 days ago

?

TruePe4rl , 20 days ago

I just felt that many people may get lost in it when first using it, the same way ppl get lost in vim. At least I managed to get lost in both of them when I first tried them.

PaX , 20 days ago

Ohh, I know, I was just making a joke cuz ed will print ? when it doesn’t recognize a command and many people will see that over and over if they can’t figure out how to exit lol

I also got lost in vi and ed when I first used them lol

Tbh if I’m just making quick edits to config files or whatever I use nano lmao

TruePe4rl , 20 days ago

got me there : )

I am unfortunately so used to vim and its bindings that I suffer whenever I can’t use it. It can be really tricky to do certain operations in other editors.

velox_vulnus , 30 days ago

Kakoune is probably the only editor that respects the UNIX philosophy, and I love it. But I also don’t like how there’s no linter and formatter for the same - maybe a daemon-based approach is probably better?

PaX , 30 days ago (edited 30 days ago)

If you like Unixy editors, highly recommend also looking into acme

Russ Cox describes it in this video as more like an “integrating development environment” as in it works with your surrounding operating system rather than an “integrated development environment”

Doesn’t shine as much on Unix as in Plan 9 though. Also no linter or formatter built into or distributed with acme but you probably could get your language’s usual tools to work pretty well with it

lengau , 30 days ago

What about ed?

itslilith , 29 days ago

I’ve really been enjoying Helix, which took a lot of inspiration (including key binds, mostly) from Kakoune. It’s just missing a plugin system to be perfect, but built in LSP support is soo nice

user224 , 30 days ago

I mean, it is old. Can’t blame it.

mumblerfish , 30 days ago

For everyone who has not already, this is so worth a read: www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

burrito82 , 30 days ago

Thank you. I had not read that before. The novice’s first steps are just wonderful.

themusicman , 30 days ago

“WYGIWYG” - love it

Korne127 , 28 days ago

This is awesome. But one question as I’m not so familiar with emacs: Why do they punish someone when trying to use emacs but not vi? Why do you see emacs as something works?

mumblerfish , 28 days ago

Not sure, but I think emacs at least used to have a reputation as a resourse hog and bloated. So maybe that?

Telorand , 30 days ago

emacs is not that hard. You can learn emacs in one day—every day.

sping , 30 days ago

I really f’ing love Emacs, and… this is true. I’m still constantly learning, 3 decades in.

But that’s part of its appeal - it’s a constantly evolving, you tweak and modify it for your needs, and you grow and change together.

finestnothing , 30 days ago

I’m very partial to doom emacs. I love the emacs ecosystem but the default editor made me want to cry, doom emacs gives the awesome text editing of vim with the awesome ecosystem of emacs (significantly smoother than viper too)

sping , 30 days ago

it always entertains me when a vim aficionado regurgitates the “just missing a good editor” joke, given that one of the editors Emacs offers is a pretty comprehensive clone of vim.

(personally, I never had any problem with the default editor when I migrated to it from vi, though I was using a keyboard that already had ctrl next to a.)

WeirdGoesPro , 30 days ago

Y NOT NANO THO? /s

psycho_driver , 30 days ago

I’m afraid to see it’s comeback for nano.

Andrew15_5 , 30 days ago

Just use duckduckgo.com and everyone will be happy.

Heavybell , 29 days ago

/usr/bin/joe mama

some_guy , 28 days ago

I meant vim, but no hard feelings.