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sjatar , in this comic is dear to my heart
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scp999 <3

jagoan , in I hate API like this

Yeah, typical on .net too. I just have a middleware and turn it into proper REST. Though all the error messages are usually like ‘something went wrong’.

madmaurice , in this comic is dear to my heart
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my code: Like this? does everything wrong

flauschke , in I hate API like this

nice plain text response 🤦

nave , in Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
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kamen , in Anyone else feel this?

Blame modern Scrum/Agile and the ever tighter deadlines…

nsantoro73 OP ,
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I have mainly worked in Scrum environments. Only now at my current position am I working outside Agile and I LOVE it.

kamen ,

What’s the process you’re using instead? Some form of waterfall?

daniskarma , in I hate API like this

Yes, but actually no.

Copio , in I hate API like this

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kr0n , in Ah, when we lose focus for a second and then we don't even known what our code was supposed to do
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Totally agree

kresten , in I hate API like this

Yeah, that’s a pain. I’m probably lucky to only have experienced this once.

needthosepylons , in Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
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Great one! :)

doppelgangmember , in Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

It’s coming from inside the house

doppelgangmember , in That does not look like a secure parking spot

Run far away

Achyu , in Lemmy

Is it a lemmy issue or a jerboa issue?

weird_nugget ,

I would say Lemmy issue. This is probably a default 502 internal sever error response (which I’ve been getting repeatedly from lemmy.world). Jerboa (I don’t use it btw) is only trying to parse the expected json response. Yes the app could handle the error more gracefully but if Lemmy didn’t respond with an error jerboa wouldn’t need to.

bappity ,
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personally I’d say it’s a Jerboa thing. the app should retry loading because sometimes I refresh after this happening and it immediately loads the proper content.

with all the different instances this sort of thing has to be kept in mind

angrymouse ,

Just retry is usually a bad ideia, specially that this problem is probably an overload, just adding retries can makes the problem.even worse with the app ddosing the server

bappity ,
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true

lemann ,

just adding retries can makes the problem.even worse with the app ddosing the server

Twitter has some experience with that

nothacking ,

Lemmy realy should not randomly emit errors for no reason, there should be no need for retries in this case. If the specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, that is a bug in the server.

r00ty Admin ,
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When you get a 502 error, that's not coming from lemmy, it's coming from nginx. If you're saying that nginx should send any error data along with the status in json if the accept headers require it, that's a task for nginx but it wouldn't happen in this case anyway since the json wouldn't be what they were expecting anyway. The app should be handling non success responses better is the point being made here.

nothacking ,

Lemmy realy should not randomly emit errors for no reason, there should be no need for retries in this case. If the specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, that is a bug in the server.

SuperIce ,

The error is not being emitted by Lemmy though. The 502 error message is returned to the client by nginx when the Lemmy server doesn’t respond within the a certain time.

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  • weird_nugget ,

    Yeah this makes more sense than my original comment

    buda ,

    Serious Answer: This is a Jerboa issue. Lemmy is written in Rust. The error message is a Java error which is what native Android apps use.

    Serinus ,

    I think it’s both, actually. Lemmy is often giving html where json is expected, and Jerboa isn’t handling the error well.

    usernotfound ,

    🤔 The server spits out html when it cannot reach the backend. So one could argue it’s a configuration issue because the admin didn’t provide enough capacity / didn’t set up a proper generic json error for backend failures.

    FWIW, Liftoff doesn’t handle these super gracefully either.

    At any rate I think it’s kinda awesome that we get to witness these kinds of infancy problems.

    nseguin ,

    Well, what should Jerboa do? Pretend it received content?

    entropicdrift ,
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    It should display a human-readable error message instead of the raw one.

    Atemu ,
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    Take it as an error, tell the user about it and then retry with exponential back-off.

    MysteriousSophon21 ,

    No, it’s probably when the app is expecting a json but the server returns an html, which usually happens in case of 502 errors.

    barsoap ,

    You really shouldn’t be expecting any content type when you get any code but a 200. If anything you should expect HTML, then.

    nothacking ,

    No, this is a lemmy issue. The API specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, this is a bug in the server. I agree that Jebora should retry in the case of a network failure (timeout, 4xx staus codes…) but it should not have to retry in a case of a server that is not folowing the standard.

    mc1472 ,

    lemmy does not return 502 error codes because 502 means “bad gateway” and lemmy is not acting as a gateway, nginx is. An nginx sends the html. All apps should check the status code for codes like this one that don’t come from apps.

    Morcyphr ,

    If it’s Jerboa/Android app issue, why do I get JSON errors using Lemmy on my desktop PC with Firefox? Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I have very little programming knowledge.

    MrScottyTay ,

    Definitely jerboa

    victron ,
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    I’m having similar errors using liftoff

    victron ,
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    I’m having similar errors using liftoff

    gun , in This repository is US property now. · Issue #981 · oilshell/oil
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    It looks like that issue got nuked. I didn’t know github let you delete issues without a trace

    joojmachine OP ,

    dear god, the devs were definitely not taking that joke

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