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EDIT: I didn’t realize the anger this would bring out of people. It was supposed to be a funny meme based on recent real-life situations I’ve encountered, not an attack on the EU.

I appreciate the effort of the EU cookie laws. The practice of them just doesn’t live up to the theory of the law. Shady companies are always going to find a way to be shady.

hdnsmbt ,

That’s fine. People who don’t care about cookies will accept them anyway and those who do care about cookies will know not to visit that site anymore.

CookieJarObserver ,
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t give a shit about cookies my browser just cleans after me and next time i open it everything is like new.

sederx ,

That’s literally the point though…

ozymandias117 ,

No? If a website refuses to load because you refused tracking cookies, it’s still illegal under GDPR

SloganLessons ,
@SloganLessons@kbin.social avatar

Yeah being unable to open… checks notes local news websites from the US has been a real deal breaker

kubica ,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

Sometimes its relieving when you go to do something and you find out that you have already finished, lol.

amio ,

Frankly I wish I could fit more US politics into my life, so it's been hard, I tells ya.

explodicle ,

Then you’ve picked the right place my friend!

MDFL OP ,

I have run into this recently on several non-US, non-news sites. I have actually never run into it on US local news sites, so I don’t know what you’re on about.

SloganLessons ,
@SloganLessons@kbin.social avatar

Yeah it’s a tragedy

christophski ,

In my experience it seems to be medical websites and recipe websites

drkt ,

Oh boo I can’t visit American propaganda websites what a loss to my European life style

MDFL OP ,

I have run into this recently on several non-US, non-news sites. Your comment is propaganda.

Kichae ,

propaganda

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

BruceTwarzen ,

It's a synonym for socialism and it means everything that i don't like

MDFL OP , (edited )

I absolutely do. Spreading the idea that news sites are all propaganda and the only entities involved in this kind of practice is, in itself, propaganda.

explodicle ,

I think they were referring only to American news websites.

MDFL OP ,

You’re right. I wasn’t clear in my comment. Saying all US-news sites are propaganda is propaganda. I’m not sure how that changes anything.

mojo ,

It’s a lost cause, the EU circlejerk is too strong, as clearly everything is a utopia over there with nothing wrong.

GDPR is a good idea, but still very flawed in practice which they really don’t like to admit anything wrong for some reason.

explodicle ,

Bruh he was just being unclear

smollittlefrog ,

claiming the GDPR is good =/= claiming the GDPR is flawless

mojo ,

Yeah, and?

smollittlefrog ,

They didn’t say that either. Where do you get this idea from that they’re talking about (all) US news sites?

They said “American propaganda websites”. That may include some news sites. It may also not include some news sites.

The most you could infer from their statement is that only American propaganda websites violate the GDPR.

Of course websites exist that violate the GDPR and are not American propaganda websites.

But the vast majority of websites commiting severe violations of the GDPR that an average European encounters will be American propaganda websites.

(Believe it or not, Europeans don’t often visit websites written in Russian or Chinese.)

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

It means “something bad that I disagree with”, synonymous with communism, socialism, democrats, and Nazis, at least that’s what Infowars tells me.

Pandoras_Can_Opener , (edited )
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Infowars tells you Nazis are something you disagree with? Haven’t heard from them in a while. Would have thought they’d quietly drop the Nazis are evil thing.

wisplike_sustainer ,

Like I care. I’ve got a plugin that automatically accepts all cookies, and another one that deletes cookies when I leave the page.

SSUPII ,

By accepting everything, you are also sending most of the time extra data to third parties. What you are doing is ill-advised if you care about privacy.

mojo ,

Not really. If you’re using an adblocker, it’s the best option. It’s the path of least resistance, and tracking is blocked regardless if it’s tracked it not. No server will see if you pressed accept or decline. That’s why this addon exists.

Honytawk ,

Just because your browser doesn’t show ads doesn’t mean you don’t get profiled.

mojo ,

Yes it does. Open up your adblocker to see the tracker domains blocked.

dan1101 ,

How does that work though? The cookies are presumably based on things like your IP and browser metrics, which a site gets from your browser. If your browser throws away the cookies then on your next visit you aren’t volunteering that you’ve been there before. But the site can still likely figure it out, but without the cookies it isn’t as certain. With well-constructed cookies they can be almost 100% sure you’re the same visitor.

towerful ,

Cookie consent is actually supposed to be about all data tracking.
There are quite a few analytics that do fingerprinting “because it’s not a cookie, it’s not covered by Cookie Consent”. But it is still covered.
Some of them respect the fact that declining cookies is about declining tracking.

So, if you consent to all cookies, you are also consenting to any fingerprinting that doesn’t rely on cookies. So deleting cookies wouldn’t remove that fingerprinting data.

dan1101 ,

Gotcha, responsible site owners should not be tracking you if you decline cookies.

DerpyPlayz18 ,

Wait doesn’t it automatically deny them?

filcuk ,

The above is wrong, the add on attempts to hide the prompt. It doesn’t accept nor reject it.

wisplike_sustainer ,

I Still don’t care about cookies? From its description:

In most cases, the add-on just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it’s needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what’s easier to do).

So, yeah, doesn’t accept everything, but might accept some.

Knusper ,

The “I still don’t care about Cookies” extension does not, no.

This extension can do that: addons.mozilla.org/firefox/…/consent-o-matic/

However, since many webpages have illegally made it so refusing consent is more difficult than giving ‘consent’, that extension is significantly more complex and in my experience doesn’t work as reliably, unfortunately.

brb ,

Is there any extension for android that can do that?

Knusper ,

Well, you can install both of these add-ons via this workaround: blog.mozilla.org/…/expanded-extension-support-in-…
(I have used both. Both work. Although, again, I’d rather recommend I Still Don’t Care About Cookies + Cookie Auto-Delete.)

However, Mozilla plans to make much more extensions available for Android soon, so you might see these regularly available before the end of the year. This is what we know for now: blog.mozilla.org/…/prepare-your-firefox-desktop-e…

Honytawk ,

Yeah, sometimes websites have so many hidden checkboxes, that consent-o-matic has a rough time going through all of them. Takes like 10-20 seconds to disable them all at computerized speed.

Imagine doing it by hand, lol.

Honytawk ,

Better to use consent-o-matic, which blocks all possible cookies instead of accepting them.

The websites still work perfectly anyway, it only preserves your privacy.

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    newIdentity ,

    They’re still widely used for some (illegal) reason

    Carighan ,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Because they rest safe in the knowledge that you rarely if ever get taken to court for it. There are millions of web pages, it needs people to take action to do something about it, and just clicking “Yes all of them” to access the content you were just trying to get to is a far better solution in most situations than hiring a lawyer and investing a few years of legal proceedings, nevermind the money.

    relevants ,

    There is an organization called nyob (I think) pushing back against that and going through the courts to have more sites penalized for their violations. The process is slow, but I see more and more pages adopting the required “reject all” so there seems to be some pressure on them.

    AnUnusualRelic ,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    Those pages can just fuck off. There are many more pages.

    Of course that’s just my opinion.

    purplemonkeymad ,

    IIRC the EU also ruled that burying the rejection options under additional links counts as a violation. Hence why Google now has a Reject button next to the accept button. Most sites still do that.

    crunchpaste ,
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    Do you know if there is a EU-wide place to report such behavior?

    The biggest privately owned TV channel in my country not only does that, but actually just redirects you to a pdf file if you want to “manage cookies”. And it’s not like I can submit a complaint on a national level, as the ruling party’s website uses google analytics without a cookie notice at all.

    purplemonkeymad ,

    I think you report to your nation’s Data Protection Centre, each member has their own that takes the reports. If I was still in the EU I would have put more time into finding out how reports work.

    Knusper ,

    Yeah, either of the nation or your nation may have data protection officers for individual states/regions.

    Honytawk ,

    dataprivacymanager.net/list-of-eu-data-protection…

    Here you can find the GDPR authority per EU country.

    mojo ,

    Most sites definitely don’t do this

    Pigeon ,

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    mojo ,

    Yeah this is very common, I don’t know why other people on here are gaslighting like it doesn’t happen. It’s this way for major sites like YouTube/Twitter/Twitch/etc too. Hell even embedding a YouTube video on a site is violating GDPR. It’s a good idea, but needs a version 2.0 patch to fix some exploits.

    Zacryon ,

    There is also a name for these kind of psychological tricks and pressure. It’s called nudging.

    I found a small report on this by the EU Commission’s science and knowledge service. publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/…/JRC127856_01.pdf

    There are surely even better resources.

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    sunbeam60 ,

    I mean almost all websites fall foul of that. You often have to bury deep and end up with a palette of complicated choices and acceptances of individual tracking companies. It’s a bloody mess. The EU should just have mandated “do not track” adherence. There’s already a standard; just enforce it.

    _number8_ ,

    why are the EU the only people that bother to actually govern in a modern and helpful way

    Steeve ,

    But what are they going to do about it?

    “Here’s a fine, if you don’t pay it your site can no longer operate in the EU”

    “… ok”

    Knusper ,

    The EU is an important market for many websites, so yeah, that is usually what happens.

    Steeve ,

    We’re specifically discussing websites that refuse to load in the EU anyways as per the post

    Knusper ,

    I understood the post as those webpages only refusing to load, if the user declines Cookies. So, they do still want to benefit off of those EU users, who click “Accept”.

    Steeve ,

    Ah, I think I misunderstood then.

    GreenMario ,

    Then half the web violates it or there is One Pixel button that closes the damn popup.

    Sysosmaster ,

    even worse offenders are the ones with tick boxes for “Legitimate Interest”, since legitimate interest is another grounds for processing (just ads freely given consent is one), the fact you got a “tick” box for it makes it NOT legitimate interest within the confines of the GDPR.

    it also doesn’t matter what technology you use whether its cookies / urls / images / local storage / spy satellites. its solely about how you use the data…

    ecamitor ,

    They found a way around: accept all cookies or pay 2€/months. And it was decied legal by GDPR authorities

    koper ,

    Some national authorities allow it, most don’t. The final word will be from the CJEU or the EDPB.

    Zacryon ,

    The what or what?

    HorriblePerson ,
    @HorriblePerson@feddit.nl avatar

    The EU supreme court or the EU data protection agency, roughly.

    koper ,

    GDPR enforcement is left to the member states. The EDPB isn’t an agency, its more like all the national data protection authorities in a trench coat.

    glad_cat ,

    So far I’ve only seen small US newspaper who did this. Is anyone angry about this?

    Oddbin ,

    There’s a medical website that appears in top searches (forget the name) that does it too but yeah, mostly seems to be news websites but not the big ones. In most cases Unlock Origin or the like can hide the panel they throw up to choose if you really need the info or archive or 12ft ladder can get you the info.

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    Oddbin ,

    That’s the one!

    I love how my description of basically “it’s a website in searches” was enough for someone to figure it out 😄

    lemann ,

    I dns blocked them after constantly clicking on the first result and it being their site. The “please enable cookies” wall started to get old fast

    ChlorineAddict ,

    If only there was a way to store state of that decision…

    MDFL OP ,

    I just happened to run into a few recently. Just venting some frustration.

    BuddyTheBeefalo ,

    www.tagesspiegel.de has no option to disable cookies without a subscription from contentpass. I think it’s contentpass’s business model.

    Pons_Aelius ,

    Cool. One less website to visit. Not like there is a shortage.

    Scubus ,

    I love when the trash takes itself out

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