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EDIT: I didn’t realize the anger this would bring out of people. It was supposed to be a funny meme based on recent real-life situations I’ve encountered, not an attack on the EU.

I appreciate the effort of the EU cookie laws. The practice of them just doesn’t live up to the theory of the law. Shady companies are always going to find a way to be shady.

nothacking ,

Nearly all of these are illegal, but sadly there is little enforcement when it comes to this. (Tracking must be opt-in, not opt-out. Ignoring a banner must be interpreted as declining. Opting out must be a simple option, not navigating a complex and misleading menus. The users choice applies to any form of tracking, not just cookies…)

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

The second that popup about cookies shows up I immediately backout and not use the site.

MDFL OP ,

That’s like every site. How do you use the internet at all?

RegularGoose ,

It’s becoming a lot easier to use the internet a lot less. It’s been turned into such a user-hostile space so domineered by corporations and fascists that most of the internet doesn’t really hold much of an appeal anymore, at least for me.

If the internet died tomorrow and didn’t come back, I’d be annoyed about not being able to use it to order food, manage my bank account, or watch shows/movies, but the world would likely be an overall better place once logistics re-adapted to not having it.

The internet was cool for the first 10-15 years, but it’s been a rapidly worsening cesspit for a long time. Nothing the internet can offer us is worth also tolerating it as a tool for inescapable government and corporate surveillance, and as the most effective imagineable breeding ground for fascism and disinformation.

The internet makes our lives worse in so many more ways than it imporves them, and people are too fucking addicted to it to give a shit.

Honytawk ,

If you really don’t want to bother, you can use the consent-o-matic addon for Firefox that automatically declines every cookie possible.

Hazzia ,

Be me, american, using a VPN Visit some fucking webber site to read an article Cookie agreement pops up Has a decline all option pog.png Hit “reject all” New popup appears Says “We’ve detected that you’re in the EU. Due to EU regulations, we cannot display this webpage with the ‘reject cookies’ setting selected. Please accept all cookies to continue” Dafuq

MDFL OP ,

Not at all my experience, but ok.

Honytawk ,

Clear sign that the only reason that website exist is to extract your privacy for profit.

Just move on to the billion other websites that don’t try to violate you.

sturmblast ,

dumbest shit ever

RagingNerdoholic ,

Road to hell, good intentions and all that. Government fundamentally misunderstanding the role of cookies and the fact that browsers can handle user privacy with trivial effort by default rather than having every single website annoy the fuck out of you with a million goddamn notifications before actually showing you what you want to see.

kornel ,

The annoying popups are an act of malicious compliance from data harvesting companies. The tracking industry wants people to associate the right to privacy with stupid annoyance, so that people will stop demanding privacy.

The legislation does not say anything about cookies. It’s about rights and responsibilities in data collection (no matter how it’s done technically). The “consent” part of it exists as a compromise, because there has been heavy lobbying against the legislation.

This is not a technical problem — we’ve had many technologies for it, and the industry has sabotaged all of them. There was the P3P spec in 2002! It has been implemented in IE that had 90%+ market share back then. And Google has been actively exploiting a loophole in IE’s implementation to bypass it and have unlimited tracking. Google has paid fines for actively subverting Safari’s early anti-tracking measures. Then browsers tried DNT spec as the simplest possible opt-out, and even that has been totally rejected by the data harvesting industry. There are easy technical solutions, but there are also literally trillions of dollars at stake, and ad companies will viciously sabotage all of it.

stevedidWHAT ,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

Well said, appreciate the write up ☺️

wisplike_sustainer ,

Like I care. I’ve got a plugin that automatically accepts all cookies, and another one that deletes cookies when I leave the page.

SSUPII ,

By accepting everything, you are also sending most of the time extra data to third parties. What you are doing is ill-advised if you care about privacy.

mojo ,

Not really. If you’re using an adblocker, it’s the best option. It’s the path of least resistance, and tracking is blocked regardless if it’s tracked it not. No server will see if you pressed accept or decline. That’s why this addon exists.

Honytawk ,

Just because your browser doesn’t show ads doesn’t mean you don’t get profiled.

mojo ,

Yes it does. Open up your adblocker to see the tracker domains blocked.

dan1101 ,

How does that work though? The cookies are presumably based on things like your IP and browser metrics, which a site gets from your browser. If your browser throws away the cookies then on your next visit you aren’t volunteering that you’ve been there before. But the site can still likely figure it out, but without the cookies it isn’t as certain. With well-constructed cookies they can be almost 100% sure you’re the same visitor.

towerful ,

Cookie consent is actually supposed to be about all data tracking.
There are quite a few analytics that do fingerprinting “because it’s not a cookie, it’s not covered by Cookie Consent”. But it is still covered.
Some of them respect the fact that declining cookies is about declining tracking.

So, if you consent to all cookies, you are also consenting to any fingerprinting that doesn’t rely on cookies. So deleting cookies wouldn’t remove that fingerprinting data.

dan1101 ,

Gotcha, responsible site owners should not be tracking you if you decline cookies.

DerpyPlayz18 ,

Wait doesn’t it automatically deny them?

filcuk ,

The above is wrong, the add on attempts to hide the prompt. It doesn’t accept nor reject it.

wisplike_sustainer ,

I Still don’t care about cookies? From its description:

In most cases, the add-on just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it’s needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what’s easier to do).

So, yeah, doesn’t accept everything, but might accept some.

Knusper ,

The “I still don’t care about Cookies” extension does not, no.

This extension can do that: addons.mozilla.org/firefox/…/consent-o-matic/

However, since many webpages have illegally made it so refusing consent is more difficult than giving ‘consent’, that extension is significantly more complex and in my experience doesn’t work as reliably, unfortunately.

brb ,

Is there any extension for android that can do that?

Knusper ,

Well, you can install both of these add-ons via this workaround: blog.mozilla.org/…/expanded-extension-support-in-…
(I have used both. Both work. Although, again, I’d rather recommend I Still Don’t Care About Cookies + Cookie Auto-Delete.)

However, Mozilla plans to make much more extensions available for Android soon, so you might see these regularly available before the end of the year. This is what we know for now: blog.mozilla.org/…/prepare-your-firefox-desktop-e…

Honytawk ,

Yeah, sometimes websites have so many hidden checkboxes, that consent-o-matic has a rough time going through all of them. Takes like 10-20 seconds to disable them all at computerized speed.

Imagine doing it by hand, lol.

Honytawk ,

Better to use consent-o-matic, which blocks all possible cookies instead of accepting them.

The websites still work perfectly anyway, it only preserves your privacy.

smileyhead ,
  1. This was not about cookies, but processing of personal data and new definitions of such data. Cookies was just an example.
  2. By those laws, forcing user to consent with denying access to the service is declared illegal.
MrBusinessMan ,

Shrewd businessmen: 1

tyrannical big government: 0

CookieJarObserver ,
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I don’t give a shit about cookies my browser just cleans after me and next time i open it everything is like new.

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