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Draegur ,

This makes Debian look kinda good actually…

mariusafa ,

What’s wrong with having a some year old software? Does it do what you need? Yes. Then what? I have all I need on Debian. Why should I care of new updates. Security? Yes we have Debian security because of that. Look, y’all had the xyz backdoor package in your systems because it was new. Me as a Debian stable user I didn’t have to deal with it. Did I lose something by not having the latests software? No. Well maybe less crashes.

Most privative software also gets weekly updates. Does it make it better? No. You may prefer that.

Also I don’t get the point about the version numbering of Debian packages. Every team uses the versioning they want.

From my experience software that updates a lot tends to break old features a lot too.

Debian suporting freesoftware projects or other stuff doesn’t look as a relevant argument. I mean if you prefer using privative stuff and using that kind of software. Do whatever you like with your Google/Facebook/Apple friends.

But don’t come intoxicate the community with this bullshit.

bruh ,

Does it do what you need?

No

phoenixz ,

Cool, get something else, then.

conorab ,

Mentoning Iceweasel in 2024?! Where did you find this meme?! Debian stable?!

Tangent5280 ,

debian nightly release

NaoPb ,

We don’t talk about what happens in the night.

r1veRRR ,

I have never had a good experience with a Debian server. Every single time I had to add unstable or third party repos to get anything remotely current to run. What’s the point if you have to add unstable shit anyway?

Johanno ,

That sounds like a skill issue.

muntedcrocodile ,

It makes a great headless server

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Debian gives you a choice though. If you want stability, install the stable release. If you want newer packages, install the testing release. Just be sure to get security updates from unstable (sid) if you do that.

“stable” in this context means that stuff doesn’t change often. It doesn’t mean “stable” as in reliable / never crashes, although Debian is good at that too.

MeDuViNoX ,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/7f5ee606-7e34-432d-a982-d0514e33f2a1.png

notanaltaccount ,

The packages in Debian are really old. It’s awful.

I was looking at my xzutils package the other month. “So outdated,” I thought, envying the cool hip trendy Arch users.

RustyShackleford ,
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

Getthefuckouttamyfacewiththisridiculousbullshit.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

SOFTWARE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE STABLE

Someone with a case of brain rot.

Sonotsugipaa ,

Me, because I cannot understand how people can miss the facetiousness of this meme template with such confidence

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

🪦

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

When even the skull is more alive

jubilationtcornpone ,

Ah, I see you’ve met the product owner.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

YEARS OF BACKPORTS yet NO REAL WORLD USE FOUND for staying more than ONE VERSION behind

I have a really old computer that still gets the job done, and just getting up to Bullseye broke it a bit.

I know, I know, it’s just a meme.

puchaczyk ,

I just want a Debian-based distro with KDE that’s not poisoned by Canonical’s nonsense

boonhet ,

KDE Neon?

puchaczyk ,

It’s Ubuntu based

Successful_Try543 , (edited )

But afaIk without ‘Canonical’s nonsense’, e.g. snap Firefox.

WormFood ,

updating packages in kde neon is like playing russian roulette, it’s worse than pop os in my experience

Successful_Try543 ,

During usual updates? Or during the major release jump of KDE Plasma from 5.x to 6.x?

fourwd ,
@fourwd@programming.dev avatar

Have you tried Debian?

puchaczyk ,

I’m currently on debian. I wrote this comment as a response to the Debian slander in the meme.

pelya ,

Just do a quick simple sudo apt-get install task-kde-desktop

nexussapphire ,

Man Nvidia users are going to be stoked when the get explicit sync in they’re desktop environments in two years. 😂 They’re have been so many small improvements in the Nvidia drivers up until that point I hope they actually update Nvidia drivers on Debian. I understand some of those improvements are not going to work because of the kernel version and the desktop versions.

ik5pvx ,

You can choose KDE as desktop environment during Debian installation, or replace whatever DE you installed at any time.

anzo ,

I’m using mxlinux “ahs” version, it comes with kde at their “ahs” repos for supporting latest hardware and graphics cards. You may also check for the non-ahs, there might be a meta-package for kde plasma and that’s it…

aaaaace ,

MX ?

Matriks404 ,

Why do you need it to be Debian-based?

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

I think you’re looking for Debian. If you want newer packages, run testing instead of stable.

yessikg ,
@yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Same, that’s why I’m using Q4OS

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) is a wonderful self-hosting platform.

AtariDump ,

Today I learned there’s a Debian edition of mint.

linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

mox , (edited )

Tell me you’re an opinionated novice without telling me you’re an opinionated novice.

(edit:specificity)

BlastboomStrice ,
@BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz avatar

It is possible though to get newer versions using flathub or somethibg, right? (I know very little about linux, but I’m thinking of switching from win10 to debian next year.)

TechnicallyColors ,

For normal desktop users, yeah Debian Stable + Flatpaks is a winning combo for picking the software that you want to be cutting-edge and leaving the rest to rock-solid stability. Normally Linux distros keep a full ecosystem of packages that interop and depend on each other, but solutions like Flatpak have their own little microcosm of dependencies that can be used independently of the host distro. There are also Debian Backports for when you want native Debian packages that are more cutting-edge but still compiled to work with your older base system. Backports are not available for most packages but sometimes the important ones are available, like the Linux kernel itself. You can also try to compile your own backports, but you’ll be responsible for updating it.

Cube6392 ,
  1. No better time than the present
  2. Yes there are ways of acquiring the latest packages even on Debian stable. Usually I end up compiling that stuff myself
  3. If you’re at all unsure if you want to deal with Debian not pushing the latest and greatest updates you do have options such as running Debian Testing or MX Linux (which itself is based on Debian Testing)
BlastboomStrice ,
@BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz avatar
  1. No better time than the present

Look, I’m already trying (and kinda succedding) to avoid doing some hard tasks I have to do, don’t push me further into the rabbit hole.😆

Ugh, now I’m considering doing it in 2 weeks, what have you donee

MajorHavoc ,

Sweet. Welcome to the cult of Debian.

We (Debian users and contributors) are inevitable. Our quiet satisfied computing cannot be stopped, only delayed.

We should consider getting some fancy robes and a few club houses, though. The only thing that can make Debian better is cookies and tea.

Cube6392 ,

Sure thing. Just remember its better to do things you want to do rather than waiting for things to be perfect. Lord knows its something I need reminded of sometimes

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