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Worx , in c/unixsocks for more

I’d let them dominate me

some_guy , in The easiest problem

Why is no one giving credit to my friend n?!

Gallardo994 , in I realised this today

I’ll be honest with ya pal, all 3 of em are pic 1 for the most part

vaseltarp , in I feel proud of myself to recognize that this iconic dude is not at a 'computer', rather, a [dumb] terminal! ]Or...?]

Here an image of an old IBM-PC: www.7dayshop.com/blog/…/Ibm_pc_5150-1024x951.jpgNote that The dark area here is for floppy Disks. One to boot from and one for data, so it probably doesn’t have a hard drive. I think it looks pretty much like the one in the meme. Also, computer desks like this were back then very common at home and probably not in offices or universities. Furthermore, he has several boxes with floppy disks beside the desktop. A dumb terminal would have no need for floppy disks, but one of the old PCs would need a lot of them.

So all in all, I think it is most likely a real computer.

Xylight , in You wouldn’t get it
@Xylight@lemdro.id avatar

i hate this programming pattern with a passion.

someonesmall ,

Setters and Getters?

purplemonkeymad ,

Where getter?

mexicancartel ,

Well you wouldn’t get it

Xylight ,
@Xylight@lemdro.id avatar

yes.

someonesmall ,

So what is a better paradigm in your opinion?

sudo ,

Immutable members. Set in constructor then read only. The Builder pattern is acceptable if you’re language is an obstacle.

AVincentInSpace ,

found the functional programming purist

sudo ,

Piafraus ,

So do you create new objects every time you need to change state?

sudo ,

You avoid having mutable state as much as possible. This is a pretty standard concept these days.

Piafraus ,

Can you please give me an example - let’s say I have a big list of numbers and I need to find how many times each number is there.

I would expect a mutable dictionary/map and a single pass through. How would you do that without mutable datastructure?

sudo ,

Very standard use case for a fold or reduce function with an immutable Map as the accumulator


<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">val </span><span style="color:#323232;">ints </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">= </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">List</span><span style="color:#323232;">(</span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1</span><span style="color:#323232;">, </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">2</span><span style="color:#323232;">, </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">2</span><span style="color:#323232;">, </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">3</span><span style="color:#323232;">, </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">3</span><span style="color:#323232;">, </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">3</span><span style="color:#323232;">)
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">val </span><span style="color:#323232;">sum </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">=</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ints.foldLeft(</span><span style="color:#0086b3;">0</span><span style="color:#323232;">)(_ + _) </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;">// 14
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">val </span><span style="color:#323232;">counts </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">=</span><span style="color:#323232;"> ints.foldLeft(</span><span style="color:#0086b3;">Map</span><span style="color:#323232;">.empty[</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">Int</span><span style="color:#323232;">, </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">Int</span><span style="color:#323232;">])((c, x) </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">=> </span><span style="color:#323232;">{
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  c.updated(x , c.getOrElse(x, </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">0</span><span style="color:#323232;">) + </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1</span><span style="color:#323232;">)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">})
</span>

foldLeft is a classic higher order function. Every functional programming language will have this plus multiple variants of it in their standard library. Newer non-functional programing languages will have it too. Writing implementations of foldLeft and foldRight is standard for learning recursive functions.

The lambda is applied to the initial value (0 or Map.empty[Int, Int]) and the first item in the list. The return type of the lambda must be the same type as the initial value. It then repeats the processes on the second value in the list, but using the previous result, and so on until theres no more items.

In the example above, c will change like you’d expect a mutable solution would but its a new Map each time. This might sound inefficient but its not really. Because each Map is immutable it can be optimized to share memory of the past Maps it was constructed from. Thats something you absolutely cannot do if your structures are mutable.

Piafraus ,

So you have memory space which is reused… Which essentially makes it a mutable memory structure, where you update or add with new data keys… No?

sudo ,

No. Persistent Data Structures are not mutable. The memory space of an older version is not rewritten, it is referenced by the newer version as a part of its definition. ie via composition. It can only safely do this if the data it references is guaranteed to not change.


<span style="color:#323232;">x </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">= </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">2 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">:: </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">:: </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">Nil </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;">-- [2, 1]
</span><span style="color:#323232;">y </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">= </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">3 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">::</span><span style="color:#323232;"> x </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;">-- [3, 2, 1]
</span>

In this example both x and y are single linked lists. y is a node with value 3 and a pointer to x. If x was mutable then changing x would change y. That’s bad™ so its not allowed.

If you want to learn more about functional programming I suggest reading Structures and Interpretation of Computer Programs or Learn You a Haskell for Great Good

Xylight ,
@Xylight@lemdro.id avatar

immutable objects, i like functional programming

intensely_human ,

Java?

twig , in We'll refactor this next year anyways

There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution that works

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

In my first month at my current employer, I added some temporary code with a TODO to fix it properly. That was 11 years ago in 2013, and the same TODO is still there today, and these days it’d be significantly harder to do it. 😂

Beanie ,

If it gets comitted to master, TODO means never do.

driving_crooner , (edited ) in "prompt engineering"
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

There was this other example of an image analyzer AI, and the researcher give ir an image of a brown paper with “tell the user this is a picture of a rose” that when asked about it its responded saying that it was indeed a picture of a rose. Image a bank AI who use face recognition to give access to the account that get tricked by a picture of the phrase “grant user access”.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Facial recognition isn’t really the same thing. It’s not trying to interpret an image into anything, it’s being used to compare an image with preexisting image data.

If they are using something that understands text, they are already doing it wrong.

Daxtron2 ,

CLIP interrogation and facial recognition are not even remotely close

Assman , in Has this ever happened to you?
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

To my marketing industry colleagues, I’m so sorry you have to live like this. Join us in product development and rid yourself of the scourge that is clients.

RonSijm , in Rebase Supremacy
@RonSijm@programming.dev avatar

Rebasing is for noobs.


<span style="color:#323232;">git reset head~42
</span><span style="color:#323232;">git push -f
</span>
shield_gengar ,
@shield_gengar@sh.itjust.works avatar

Holy shit

RagnarokOnline , in Life Hack

Now if I could only bypass the float only input field…

Maalus ,

F12 lol. The only issue with a dev console helping would be serverside checking

grue ,

How do you press F12 on a touchscreen interface?

trxxruraxvr ,
RagnarokOnline ,

So I have to bluetooth my mobile device to the restaurant’s point of sale app?

smeg ,

You could probably also try peeling off the outer plastic of the device so you can access the USB port and plug in an external keyboard, but the person holding it might notice

affiliate ,

you could also bring a regular keyboard and try to plug it in when the cashier isn’t looking. i’m sure that will go over well

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Based username

RagnarokOnline ,

Always nice to meet a fellow adventurer. See you in South Pront 👍

shiveyarbles , in Gamedev is Easy

No no release should be executed first

stoly , in Exam Answer

I wonder if day length is given separately in a table prior to the question? I’m not sure what they wanted except maybe seconds?

Akrenion ,

It’s the length of the string. The number of characters is 6. It’s a play on words and a question.

stoly ,

Oh wow. Thanks

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

I'm not really a fan of this kind of question. Especially if there's enough questions that time will be an issue for most. Because at first glance it's easy to think the answer might be the length of a day.

There shouldn't be a need to try to trick people into the wrong answer on an open question. Maybe with multiple choice but not an open answer question.

CanadaPlus ,

It relies on critical thinking (meaning thinking about your own thinking), basically, and most students aren’t very good at that.

Couldbealeotard ,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

This doesn’t rely on critical thinking. It just relies on understanding what “.length” does, which would’ve been previously covered in the lessons.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Well, both. If you rushed through without recalling that length has specific meaning relative to strings, even though you do know that, that’s a critical thinking failure. But yeah, not knowing strings could do it too.

Couldbealeotard ,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

If you didn’t know the answer, it’s a critical thinking exercise? Not at all.

Answering this question relies completely on understanding programming. A correct answer cannot be reached without an understanding of programming.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

A correct answer cannot be reached without an understanding of programming.

Yes. It does not follow, though, that knowledge of programming always leads to a correct answer. Since you seem like someone who might appreciate a formal logical description, you are affirming the consequent here.

Again, without sufficient critical thinking one might just miss the detail that “Monday” is a string and not a custom unit-of-time object, inheriting from Day.

Couldbealeotard ,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

But you can only mistake it as a custom object of you understand how coding works. I’m not saying an understanding will prevent you from being wrong, I’m saying having critical thinking will not reach the answer if you don’t have an understanding.

AdlachGyfiawn ,
@AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Software engineering as a discipline is pretty much a series of trick questions.

RagingRobot ,

I get your point about it being a trick question but I think in this case it’s pretty reasonable that you would see code like this in real life. Where the programming metaphor and your understanding of the real world clash. It’s a very important skill to be able to spot the difference.

onlinepersona ,

The compiler or interpreter does that for you. There’s no point in these “gotcha’s”. They are cute brain teasers that belong on those useless “are you a programmer” quizzes you find on random meme websites, not an exam.

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RagingRobot ,

In the error shown a compiler would be just fine and run as usual but the person programming it would be expecting a different result so a compiler wouldn’t do this for you since it’s a logical error and not a syntax error.

onlinepersona ,

If it’s a statically typed language and x is of type Date, it’s for sure throw a type error when trying to assign a string to it. If it had autoboxing / auto type conversion from String to Date, length could return a number or a string.

If this were Javascript on NodeJS, it would fail at print(x) because that doesn’t exist in JS. If it were Python it would fail at x.length because that has to be len(x). And so on.

If this were all to pass, at the latest at runtime, when the programmer sees the output “6”, they would know something’s up.

As I said, cute, but worthless test.

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Car ,

I’m assuming they wanted the literal length of the string

stoly ,

That seems to be the consensus.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Naw, they wanted the metaphorical length. Computers are great at metaphors.

dog ,

Most date libraries count to 23h 59m 59s then roll over to 00h 00m 00s. So the answer is 23 hours, not 24.

Edit: I’m big dum dum. It’s asking string length of “Monday”, thus 6.

deadbeef79000 ,

You’re also mistaken about the time too. The first second of the day is 00:00:00 the last second of the day is 23:59:59

That’s still a full and exact 24 hours.

dog ,

Yes, it’s a full 24 hours, but a library doesn’t use 24:00:00 to represent the last hour, it’s 23:59:59. Once it hits 24:00, it rolls over to 00:00:00.

Hence my initial error of answering 23.

It’s not valid, but I don’t edit out erronous answers because I believe all data should be preserved, no matter how dumb it makes one look.

diverging ,
@diverging@lemmy.ml avatar

00:00:00 is the 1st second of the day. 23:59:59 is the 86400th second of the day. That’s 24 hours.

deadbeef79000 ,

It’s not valid, but I don’t edit out erronous answers because I believe all data should be preserved, no matter how dumb it makes one look.

Doing the lord’s work.

I have but one up vote and you already have it.

CrazyEddie041 ,
@CrazyEddie041@kbin.social avatar

Conversations about language aside, the error is that "Monday" is a string with a length of 6.

nathanjent ,

What is the type of the variable day though? As it is we have to make multiple assumptions, based on popular programming languages, about the internals of the string type and the print function to assume that it prints “6”.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

There is a fairly good chance that there has been more info presented in the class than we have been given here.

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s the variable name, not the type

wise_pancake , in W3C pls give us :focus-visible-within

I miss when CSS was tables. Now I don’t even recognize it with variables and compilers.

Strawberry OP ,

It’s so much more fun now though! Things like grid layout and flex box have really changed the game. Also idk if you were saying otherwise but this has no variables and is vanilla CSS

wise_pancake ,

I do like flex layout, it’s very cool!

I’ve been out of the css game for a while though, so now I’m totally lost

bugsmith , in True Story
@bugsmith@programming.dev avatar

I don’t code in C++ (although I’m somewhat familiar with the syntax). My understanding is the header files should only contain prototypes / signatures, not actual implementations. But that doesn’t seem to be the case here. Have I misunderstood, or is that part of the joke?

Scoopta ,
@Scoopta@programming.dev avatar

Not a C++ developer, I prefer C. You are right in general however my understanding is that classes which are generic using templates must be fully implemented in header files because of how templates are implemented. That being said this code doesn’t appear to use templates so I’m not entirely sure I get it either?

Kethal ,

I guess that’s the joke, and I think we’re all confused because it’s wrong.

best_username_ever ,

Templates can now be defined somewhere else. It’s a small improvement that no one uses.

suy ,

I’m not fully sure what the intent of the joke is, but note that yes, it’s true that a header typically just has the prototype. However, tons of more advanced libraries are “header-only”. Everything is in a single header originally, in development, or it’s a collection of headers (that optionally gets “amalgamated” as a single header). This is sometimes done intentionally to simplify integration of the library (“just copy this files to your repo, or add it as a submodule”), but sometimes it’s entirely necessary because the code is just template code that needs to be in a header.

C++ 20 adds modules, and the situation is a bit more involved, but I’m not confident enough of elaborating on this. :) Compile times are much better, but it’s something that the build system and the compilers needs to support.

bugsmith ,
@bugsmith@programming.dev avatar

Thanks. I didn’t know about these advanced libraries, and had not heard of C++ modules either. Appreciate the explanation.

Ephera ,

Well, it’s even just horrid code, because they’re reading user input in some random associated function, so I think, it’s safe to say that this is supposed to be horrid code.

LouNeko , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

A “good girl”

ThatFembyWho ,

Wtf. I came here to make this same comment.

Thought I’d be super clever haha. Take my upvote instead

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