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HelixDab2 ,

Because masturbation - and pornography- aren’t addictions.

The idea that masturbation is an addiction is a product of religious morality, not science. When you look at models of addiction, they’re compulsive behaviours that are no longer pleasurable themselves, but are done to ward off unpleasant withdrawals. E.g., when you first start smoking, the act of smoking is, itself, enjoyable. But very quickly it becomes something you’re doing to stop the unpleasant feelings of nicotine withdrawal. That’s not what sex “addiction” is at all.

crummysocks ,

Because there’s no monkey porn. Masturbation itself becomes boring after a while without it

Thorny_Thicket ,

I’m only speaking for myself but it’s not masturbation alone that’s addictive but it’s that combined with porn

irkli ,
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If you weren’t supposed to masturbate it wouldn’t be so right in your lap.

DrQuint ,

You clearly have not heard about the Bonobos

Deepus ,

Please do tell…?

DrQuint ,

They’re, in summary, extremely horny. They make groups of a couple dozen and form a somewhat open social hierarchy that is mostly matriarchal. The way this structure is defined and reinforced is with lots and lots of sex.

Oh and they’re the second closest relative humans have.

UwUYukinekoUwU OP ,

wow thanks for sharing, will take extra time for appreciation next time I see them in a zoo

TrismegistusMx ,
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Monkeys are free to be monkeys, and not capitalist slaves. Monkeys that are enslaved often exhibit addictive behaviors.

kava ,

I’d imagine if you gave monkeys access to porn and stuck them inside a box they would get addicted to maturation. I’d even wager you’d find similar level of addictions to humans. They’ve done studies on a type of monkey on a Caribbean touristy Island.

The monkeys learned that the drinks people leave behind on the beach got them drunk. Most of them drank a little bit for fun. Some of them didn’t drank at all. And a small percentage of them ended up getting addicted to the alcohol.

According to the article I read, that rate of addiction is almost the same as the rate of alcohol addiction in humans. We like to think we’re more evolved, and of course in a lot of ways we are, but fundamentally we’re still primates and addiction is a short circuiting of primitive neurological pathways.

doyadig ,

Monkey, other animals or human porn?

Donebrach ,
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Obviously cat-girlmonkey porn you degenerate

DrQuint ,

Oohh ooh ahh-haa (“A cat is fine too”)

banana_meccanica ,

You are wrong as mine opinion. Monkeys will not give a fuck about masturbate to a porn or even by seeing other monkeys doing sex in front them. Your example is about an action, because it true that a monkey can become addicted to alcohol as like nicotine but because is a chimical external factor. While with porn you don’t give them nothing, humans get addicted to porns because our brain is evolved to reach the 4th dimension of logic, that’s mean thinking and feeling something you don’t see in front of you. When you have your dick on your hands and watching porn you get horny not because the big tittis of Alexis Texas but because your evolved brain thinks of that titties on your face while you call Alexis an horny slut. That’s the imagination that monkeys miss, and that’s why they cant be addicted at Alexis wonderful butthole.

doyadig ,

Lol thanks for the laugh. Imagine seeing an ape masturbating to Alexis cornholio. What a sight!

UwUYukinekoUwU OP ,

I guess that makes sense. I feel like a monkey species now

BrerChicken ,

They’ve done studies on a type of monkey on a Caribbean touristy Island.

Oh have they now?? 🤣🤣

kava ,

Here’s a link to a YouTube video: youtu.be/pSm7BcQHWXk

BrerChicken ,

This is not a study, and those monkeys are addicted to alcohol, not masturbation. I’ve actually seen this clip before.

But I was just making fun of your comment, which was honestly pretty hilariou.

kava ,

It’s based on a study. The clip is just easier to share

archive.measuringbehavior.org/…/palmour.htm

The point is that there are striking similarities between vervet monkeys and humans in the domain of alcohol addiction/ use. Similar ratios get addicted. Females prefer sweet drinks. Social drinking behavior vs alcohol abuse. It all mimics humans

Which implies that the process of getting addicted to alcohol is a primitive mechanism that biologically and neuorologically gets us on a level that we share with monkeys. If we share that with monkeys, it’s very likely that we would share other addictions. Addictions are all the same - chemical or behavioral.

there is evidence that monkeys in captivity (key word captivity) like porn and will continously watch it. See below link. Now the question is - how does captivity cause this and does modern civilization keep humans in “captivity”? Is this causing not only the porn addiction but addictions in general? Rates of addiction seem to be increasing. I think there’s a lot of food for thought here

newscientist.com/…/mg19726391-700-how-primate-por…

Not sure what is so hilarious personally but I guess everyone has a different sense of humor

banana_meccanica ,

Because how monkey brain works, they visualize the immediate needs and not the abstrsct. Masturbation is one of the most abstracted action in nature because drives on fantalization and not just phisical action. Is not about your hand and also isn’t what you watch, its your brain that immerge itself in deeper shit to get horny and make you feel good to cum.

DrQuint ,

This comment makes a presumption about the workings of monkey brains that the video of a monkey using a crane lift or if the mice driving cars (even without reward treats) seem to disagree with.

snailwizard ,

Some do, I’m sure, just like some humans get addicted to it.

Spacehooks ,

I recall a type that had this issue and it was a problem for zoos. Can’t recall what species.

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