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How is Lemmy better than Reddit?

I am a reddit refugee. Keep seeing that this is supposed to be somehow better than Reddit. As far as I can tell, it follows a similar format, less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose. But It looks like people still get down vote brigaded on some communities. So I’m curious, how it’s better?

inbeesee ,

I recently migrated here. I did so as a precaution, and still browse reddit sometimes .

Reddit IPO’ed, and is now focused on making money. They removed the API to centralize it’s power and remove 3rd party apps. They threatened subreddits who protested, and shut some down. And have made sweeping changes to accommodate to advertisers.

The straw that broke the snoo’s back was the CEO hinting at subreddit paywalls. I figured I would try to learn Lemmy again, and what do you know, it’s more serious, has better comments and posts, segmented even more than reddit with the distros, and fully free/open source.

It also helps that I’m a huge computer nerd, and there’s a lot of that on here, but you can find your niche.

Der_Fossyler ,

Hello fellow nerd 👋

JackbyDev ,

Welcome! Don’t take this wrong, but why didn’t you come sooner? Reddit has had paywalls for as long as I can remember. r/TheLounge is an example of a famous one but any subreddit could enable restricting themselves to premium only.

inbeesee ,

That’s actually new information to me! The news was pointing to a broader push to subscriptions for subreddits site wide. Definitely not doing that.

I also admit that I am deeply unhappy with reddits enshittification. I’ve been on reddit for over a decade and joined when I was in highschool. Moving was the last thing I wanted, but I’m more aware of the big-corp-monopoly we’re all suffering under. This is part of it.

JackbyDev ,

I ripped the bandage off a few months before they shut down the API. I had to quit RIF cold turkey. I wanted it to be “my choice” if that makes sense. The official Reddit app just didn’t do it for me.

I hope you enjoy your time here! I’ve liked it. My biggest piece of advice is to be the content you want to see. There is a lot less content here than Reddit. That’s good and bad. Good because you get bored a little easier and move on lol, but bad because it can get a little boring. It’s gotten a lot better though!

The other thing, and this is just a pet peeve lol, is that the proper way to link to communities is like !community@instance. A lot of people try to do c/community which doesn’t work. If you do !community alone it will link to the local community which could totally not exist or have different rules etc.

example: !programming

UniversalMonk ,
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world avatar

My biggest piece of advice is to be the content you want to see.

Totally agree with this. BUT just know that for some Lemmy’s, they get suspicious pretty quick.

My account is less than a month old. I found a vast hole of the kind of content I want to see, so I started posting a lot. Starting communities, replying to replies on my posts, etc.

And pretty much every day I get called variations of being a troll, spammer, trumper and/or russian asset.

Doesn’t keep me from posting, and I think it’s hilarious. But just a heads up to anyone reading. Tho this thread is old so maybe no one will. But I found this thread just now, so… lol

Blaze ,

Welcome!

chicken ,

Overall, it isn’t yet. Reddit has more developed niche subs, more in-depth posts and comments, and enough content even if you filter out the low effort stuff. Where Lemmy is better is that it is decentralized and not run like a corporate dictatorship with zero respect for its users the way Reddit is.

exanime ,

It’s federated so much more unlikely to be enshitified by money interests.

Right now the community is smaller and manageable so less bots and trolls

Nomad ,

Hard to put into words. “Better” as in “more free” (as in freedom and no cost). Everything is maintained communally and so you and your data are not sold (out) for money.

roserose56 ,

Simple, no Karma whoring, real people to argue, no bots posting fake stories about something that happened related to the post, and best of all, controlled by users and not corporate people.

CrimeDad ,

You can run your own instance and votes don’t really matter.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Welcome to Lemmy, where the content is sparse and the votes don’t matter!

richieadler ,

I’m trying to think of a funny way for Ryan to misunderstand Lemmy, but nothing comes to mind.

I_Miss_Daniel ,

Winks?

OkGo ,

For me it’s not that it’s “better” it’s just not the cesspit that Reddit has become. It’s certainly better for avoiding mindless negativity.

Anon518 ,

Unfortunately, I haven’t observed that. There seem to be many people on Lemmy who go out of their way to be antagonistic to other Lemmy users. Which includes downvote brigading, as the OP said.

EnderMB ,

Sadly I have to agree. While the nice people on Lemmy are much nicer, there are some really extreme views here that are heavily detached from reality.

I’ve probably had more heavy downvotes or arguments on Lemmy in 9 months than I had on Reddit in over 15 years. The highlight recently was me discussing how expert systems are used in LLM’s, given that I’m a software engineer that works in AI at a big tech company for a living. Nope, I’m wrong, LLM’s aren’t real AI, downvotes… Pair this with me questioning customer data access rules in big tech, which resulted in someone arguing my view on something I literally helped build and telling me to “open source it to prove it”.

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

LLM’s aren’t real AI

I think that’s mostly a semantics issue. When people talk about AI here on Lemmy, they generally mean AGI. LLMs are not AGIs, as far as I understand it.

EnderMB ,

They’re absolutely not. Where most people on Lemmy are wrong is in saying that most LLM’s just parrot back trained text. The reality is that a LLM action plan will likely contain expert API’s to provide valuable context. All a LLM is nowadays is an orchestrator platform, where it will pass ambiguities to an expert system that knows how to answer or give clarification.

We’re decades away from “AGI”, if at all. LLM’s aren’t even new, it’s just that big tech has decided that the price of hallucinations and burning several rainforests a month’s to power the fuckers is worth it.

laughterlaughter ,

The irony is that I’ve been antagonized for looking for other examples of AI that are not related to LLMs. As in “lol LLMs are AI!!!” and I have to reply with “yeah, I know that, but what other types are being used out there?” “just shut up with your anti-LLM stuff!”

UniversalMonk ,
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve probably had more heavy downvotes or arguments on Lemmy in 9 months than I had on Reddit in over 15 years.

Same. I mean, I still love and prefer Lemmy, but I’ve had DM’s of people saying that they were gonna follow me around on Lemmy “just to keep an eye on” me because I disagreed with what they said. lmao

TheBrideWoreCrimson ,

Right? Way too often, I see some really interesting comments sitting at 0 or -1, and some still somewhat interesting and/ or arguably good-faith comments have something like -50 because they go against the current direction of the herd. I usually upvote at least the former, but for the latter, it’s not going to matter much, unfortunately.
Furthermore, some mods get way too personally invested and take an obvious disliking to you so everything you contribute will be pushed to the bottom of the stack anyways.

laughterlaughter ,

Mindless negativity has arrived - at least in lemmy.world.

I have some tech-related subscriptions, so I check those out every now and then, but they have few new posts. So when I browse the Popular section, oy… corporations bad, climate change bad, war bad, economy bad. (Not saying it’s not true, I just want a place I can browse and escape all that for five minutes.)

And some users (even mods!) have an “all-or-nothing” attitude too, which is infuriating because they won’t drive me away from the cause, but they may drive away others with less patience.

For example, I say “I support the blue color. Now, I wonder, if metallic blue with a purple hue is really a true blue? And how? Trying to learn. Just curious…” and then someone says “YOU JUST OUTED YOURSELF AS A BLUE HATER!!!”

Der_Fossyler ,

No Ads, federated, Open Source, No big coorporation, community driven, no investors and stock market push, decentralized is the future IMHO.

OfficerBribe ,

While decentralised systems can be useful it will not be the future. Initially everything was decentralised and then we moved to centralised systems because they are easier to manage, easier to secure, cheaper. The main benefit for decentralisation is that you are not tied to single organization that dictates all the rules. If reddit would have better management, I would move back.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

this reads like either an AI text or something written by reddit’s PR team

sunzu2 ,

Some people just love having a strong alpha daddy in charge of their corporations because we are all family anyway

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Less locked down than Reddit. No CEO bent on taking your user created content and charging for it. No CEO trying to polish a turd for advertisers to make $$ while simultaneously completely taking for granted and disregarding the mods and users that actually make Reddit exist. No communities captured by shills and groupthink. Well…except for places like hexbear or some .ml, but there’s no pretenses there. You know what you’re getting into. Lemmy is more egalitarian, plenty of apps for mobile devices, people generally have a discussion and not just be the retread cheap quip for upvotes.

Also, Reddit IMO has gotten “colder” for lack of a better word. People don’t upvote. You’re more likely to be criticized for a position than engaged with. Opinions that disagree with the hive mind are often quickly downvoted regardless of whether or not the position has validity.

Lemmy is just more chill.

VictoriaAScharleau ,

People don’t upvote. You’re more likely to be criticized for a position than engaged with. Opinions that disagree with the hive mind are often quickly downvoted regardless of whether or not the position has validity.

i experience this constantly on lemmy.

orcrist ,

There were multiple actions described. You’re saying that you experience one of them. Or maybe you experience more than one. Or maybe we don’t know, because you didn’t make it clear, which might make us want to downvote you, which suggests that you often experience being downvoted. :-)

UniversalMonk ,
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world avatar

i experience this constantly on lemmy.

Me too!

peto ,

Why did you, personally, leave Reddit?

VinesNFluff ,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Decentralization.

That in itself is a huge advantage. Otherwise it’s just Reddit 2.0

Blackmist ,

Loony power tripping moderators can only ban you from their little bit rather than from the whole site.

UniversalMonk ,
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world avatar

Loony power tripping moderators can only ban you from their little bit rather than from the whole site.

Amen!

Glide ,

Listen, I won’t dig into all the tech and philosophy of decentralization and anti-corporate ownershipa. There are other people here for that. But let me tell you why I am enjoying it: it’s small, it ends, and it feels like early internet.

I load up Lemmy, and see a series of disjointed memes, or a current ongoing meme (like pondering the orb) and absorb that for a short while. I see a couple world news articles, a couple about Trump and a couple about places that aren’t the US. I read an article about Ryzen’s new chips not performing well on Windows and see someone’s retro-gaming setup. Then, after about 10-15 minutes of scrolling, I go “oh hey, I remember this post from yesterday”, and then I close Lemmy because, and this is the important part, I’ve hit the end of new content in my feed.

I still get the news, I still take in a couple memes about the current state of politics, or a celebrity flying her plane altogether too much, but I am never stuck here. There’s no one trying to rage bait me for the sake of user engagement, and any argument I find myself in wraps up and moves on. I don’t feel disconnected, but I am also never completely absorbed, and my life is better for it. Sure, sometimes while I am waiting in a line I load Lemmy only to discover there’s nothing new for me in the hour since I’ve closed it. Sometimes I do the age old, “looking to busy myself”, close Lemmy because there’s nothing to see, immediately open Lemmy because I am looking for something to occupy my Internet poisoned brain. But being bored for a minute here and there is worth it, if it means a lot more free time because I am no longer absorbed in the rat race of infinite scrolling social media.

I think Lemmy is better in a series of ways, but the one that really matters is that it helps me put down my phone, and do things that I enjoy.

yboutros ,
@yboutros@infosec.pub avatar

25% of reddit comments are chatgpt trash if not worse. It used to be an excellent Open Source Intelligence tool but now it’s just a bunch of fake supportive and/or politically biased bots

I will miss reddits extremely niche communities, but I believe Lemmy has reached the inflection point to eventually reach the same level of niche communities

madjo ,

I also miss Reddit’s sense of community. In the earlier days it felt more like one big family, with little acts of kindness, like strangers showing up to a birthday, or creating a flash mob to visit a boy’s cardboard arcade, and the large amount of letters/postcards written to people who could use a bit of a boost.

Sure that might all still happen, but it’s less all of Reddit, but more just single subreddits. I don’t know how to explain it.

Reddit itself feels too corporatized, if that’s a word.

TheBrideWoreCrimson ,

It’s become a product. You can still discuss anything on Reddit unless it diminishes the value of the product. E.g. in a thread discussing the merits of Hyundai or Coca-Cola or whatever, which I’m sure will be totally organic and not paid-for and bot-bum-rushed at all, any negative comment about these brands will get you buried at -6 or below within mere minutes.

mojofrododojo ,

NO SPEZ. That’s enough

stock ,

The “fuck /u/spez” wave is one of my last, and favorite, Reddit memories haha

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