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DBT ,

Backyard fireworks, yes. Professionally done fireworks at a planned place and time, no.

Professionally done fireworks are usually pretty amazing and fun to watch. They usually happen right around 9pm and last 15-30 minutes.

Backyard fireworks in dense neighborhoods are pretty fucking lame. One mortar every 30 seconds is not the spectacle you think it is. And it typically goes on for hours in my neighborhood. It terrifies dogs and is completely unpredictable. Maybe if everyone agreed to light everything they had between 9 and 9:30 it would be more impressive and less annoying, but that’ll never happen because “muh freedom” or something lol

Godric ,

Nah friend, I spend time, bandwidth, electricity, etc., talking to strangers and morons on the internet, fireworks give me much more bang for my buck.

werefreeatlast ,

It’s not really pollution since the materials at the end are trace minerals necessary for biological processes. But the fire hazard is going to get them banned some day soon. Maybe they should move the 4th of July to February or March. You know, one of those wet months.

vrighter ,

search perchlorate and fireworks, and you immediately get to know which country I’m from.

Stitch0815 ,

That is just wrong. Even if it were all just relly cool stuff everything needs to be alive. You still should not breath it.

SturgiesYrFase ,
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Wow. Much American. Literally only country that fireworks…

dutchkimble ,

Try India, where fireworks are banned and they go off practically everyday

ColonelThirtyTwo ,

Fireworks are art. Art isn’t inherently wasteful.

magnolia_mayhem ,

No

FlyingSquid , (edited )
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I am not worried about their environmental impact, but I hate seeing my dog spending the evening shaking because of the explosions. Even sedatives aren’t enough. If you could have fireworks without the big booms, I wouldn’t care, but the big booms scare the shit out of a lot of animals.

aceshigh ,
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My dog couldn’t use the bathroom or drink water. Had a healthy appetite though lol. I felt so bad for him because I should have went outside earlier in the day. This year my neighborhood went all out. I also feel bad for vets.

FlyingSquid ,
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Mine did a little better this year because instead of trying a prescribed sedative, the vet suggested we try catnip because (I never knew this before) it has a calming and sedating effect on dogs and it’s safe for them. We tested it first because apparently it doesn’t work on all dogs, but at least that time only the big fireworks scared her and she was able to be okay through the little ones. But she was still shaking and panting a lot. I was just glad she was able to go to sleep after the big ones ended.

I’m not a vet, so don’t just take my word for this obviously, but I thought I’d put that out there in case anyone wanted to ask their vet about it. I did some research after they recommended it and (I have a good vet, but you never know) it seems like there’s no health issue if you use it in moderation.

Edit: Our dog is 60 pounds and the vet suggested a half a teaspoon sprinkled in her food.

Godric ,

Mine and my family’s literally just vibed with everyone. They might have been dog tired from running around with everybody, but I’ve never seem a freaked out reaction from a dog that isn’t a little ankle-biter.

FlyingSquid ,
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My dog is 60 pounds. So that’s pretty big for a little ankle-biter.

spookedintownsville ,

But… muh freedum

NutWrench ,
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If it weren’t for fireworks, we wouldn’t have funny stories about dumb people shoving them in their ass cracks, setting them on fire and cauterizing their buttocks.

Socsa ,

Does anyone else feel like adding salt to food is a complete waste of money?

Grayox OP ,
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Lmao are you really comparing salting food to setting off fireworks?

Socsa , (edited )

Does anyone else feel like dyed clothing is a complete waste of money?

OopsAllTwix ,

I want my food dyed and my clothing salted. Toothpaste is a waste. I use Duncan Hines frosting instead.

Hikermick ,

Doesn’t salt act as a preservative for food? There are only a couple things I’ll add salt to. Now if we just started eating fresh food and less processed food no doubt we’d be better off. Hell we’d probably offset carbon emissions by eating locally sourced food and not having it delivered to us more than we would by banning fireworks

BilboBargains ,

Yes but we’re talking about fireworks now. Have you tried adding fireworks to your food? Could be a huge win.

hoogic ,

but the volcanoes do more damg tho

ocassionallyaduck ,

Fireworks are like. 000000000000001% of a concern for GHG.

You shut down a coal plant for 1 days because you switched to solar temporarily and you probably offset the output.

whome ,

The impact on nature goes beyond climate gases. At least here in Germany fireworks produce 1% of the yearly pm10 particulates. That’s not nothing.

ocassionallyaduck ,

It’s not nothing, but 1% goes to show just how much is no5 made by the giant 1 day full of sky explosions, and how likely 70-80% is from transport and energy sector.

Eliminating all fireworks from earth and banning them tomorrow would have a near 0 impact on anything, and be completely erased if a coal plant runs an extra day or two.

zaphod ,

Assuming there would be a single source responsible for the remaining 99% of yearly pm10 particulates, let’s say a giant coal power plant, then it would take 4 days of it running to have the same impact as fireworks.

Sizzler ,

https://londonair.org.uk/LondonAir/Guide/Fireworks.aspx

Inner-city long-term effects, right there.

ocassionallyaduck ,

Giant ceremonial bonfires /= fireworks, for one. Tons of random shit can go into bonfires beyond just wood, the wood is of incredibly differing quality and chemical treatments, and bonfires by their nature a low to the ground and intended to last for at minimum an hour or they’re not worth making.

This is not the same discussion as fireworks. It’s also still not long term effects, as the site warns of poor air quality in the days that follow the giant bonfires if there is no wind or weather, but it does dissipate either way, not that this event gives everyone cancer or something.

The question was about fireworks. And yea, fireworks are an afterthought still. Compared to Guy Fawkes Night maybe even more of an afterthought. Guy Fawkes Night and 4th of July still hardly register on the global scale of CO2 and GHG outputs.

Sizzler ,

I was pointing out that fireworks were being used in a way that lowers the local air pollution for residents, for days, not just the evening. You can say ‘barely registered’ but I’ve shown you a clear case of it very much registering in terms of effects on local populous.

ocassionallyaduck ,

Bonfires are not fireworks. Guy Fawkes Night is infamously filled with tons of bonfires.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
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Yeah but no one ever actually does that.

nifty ,
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I think people should get to do them! I don’t enjoy them, but whatever. If we could make louder noises, flashes and colors with environmentally friendly fireworks, that’d be awesome. I think the noise, flash and color of fireworks is what other people enjoy, but we all suffer the poor air quality afterwards. So I just want something that will make other people get what they want out of fireworks while not damaging the air quality

TheHottub ,
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Love them. There are tons on unnecessary things we do.

PersnickityPenguin ,

Exactly. Movies, the Internet, traveling.

As a life form, the 4 key aspects of life are:

1). Eat 2). Sleep 3). Defecate 4). Reproduce

Literally everything else you do is irrelevant or secondary to the core mission of life.

Drewelite ,

This is sort of where I get confused about people pissed at Taylor Swift for having a private jet. Like I totally understand that some of the trips have been shown to be unnecessary and I agree. But how many sports teams and equipment do we transport for greater carbon emissions to bring joy to a fraction as many people? Like think about an American football game, world cup game, Olympics, F1 race, Golf tournament… hell even Burning Man? I feel like it’s just low hanging fruit for her critics to stir up shit.

CaptPretentious ,

I like them. The big shows are a rare form of artistic expression. And even the stuff you can buy, is a form of fun you cannot get anywhere else.

Drone shows are boring. You can watch them on a screen and lose none of the experience. I mean, the first time you see it it’s interesting, but then you remember it’s just a bunch of drones, and your going to be stuck in traffic just so you can see a pixilated coke can or something. There’s nothing unique or special about the experience I feel. Unlike fireworks, while they can look fine on a screen (if recorded properly) but you can see the difference on someone’s face when you’re there. You see it, feel it, and smell it. It makes sense why humans have been doing this for hundreds of years.

Lifter ,

Try thousand(s) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireworks

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