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Why is my Lemmy experience feeling so lame? **UPDATE**

I’ve subscribed to a plethora of communities that really interest me and actually have posts and discussions in them, but I have to go to the specific community to see this. My “Subscribed” feed only contains a few of the same posts that I’ve seen for weeks in Hot, the same posts from even longer ago in “Active”, posts from the same communities as the ones in “Hot” in New and no other communities, and pretty much only posts from the Meme’s community I unsubscribed from when sorted by “All”. I also see a majority of posts barely have upvotes or comments on them at all from the “bigger” communities. Is this just the growing pains of this site? Am I still doing lemmy wrong? Is it the instance I’ve chosen to join?

UPDATEI want to thank everyone who posted and gave me helpful advice on this matter. It turns out that there are still lots of people here on Lemmy with me, I just couldn’t see you because I was sorting my feed incorrectly. I’m excited that there are more people here and I’m excited to continue to contribute to Lemmy with you! Thank you all for the help, I really appreciate it. The solutions are to continue to subscribe, contribute to my favorite communities, and sort by top day, 12, and 6 hours. It really helped liven up my feed!

DaveNa ,

My takes: 1. Lemmy is small yet, so, few content. 2. A lot of propaganda accounts. You need to block communities and users. 3. Once in a while a small community make it to the top, so you found about it and subscribe to it. 4. Little by little your feed gets better. 5. Human nature, you can’t escape from it, you know, that quote about how stupid is the average person and so. 6 Accept the limitations and enjoy the platform. PS: I do like all the silly memes.

SJ0 ,

I’ve been preferring new or top X hours ago, then just choose the X for the last time you visited.

BlackRose ,

It would be nice to have 2,3,4,5 hour options as well. Adjusting it manually in the url does not work.

can ,

When I joined there was nothing shorter than top 24h so maybe in the future they’ll add more.

slaughtermouse ,

Okay, so here’s my first problem with the Twitter rebrand

SJ0 ,

100% legit criticism.

Reliant1087 ,

I honestly didn’t envision a timeline where melon renaming twitter would cause confusion in math.

SPOOSER OP ,

Your typo calling Elon melon is the cherry on top of this discussion

Reliant1087 ,

Ha ha :) Thank you. It’s a term my friends made up for him.

mrmanager ,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

Sort by 6 or 12 hours is super important.

bouncingbollocks ,

This is the way

Silviecat44 ,

Turn on “hide read post”! It changes everything

SPOOSER OP ,

I did that and it confused the hell out of me, half of my instances communities were empty all of a sudden

deweydecibel ,

Content aggregation is a WIP around here. Reddit had very similar issues in its early days. Give it time.

SPOOSER OP ,

The amount of responses in this post have been extremely reassuring. I honestly just felt like I was using the site alone with a bunch of bots lol

lemmyshmemmy ,

As others have said maybe it’s a sorting issue. I can scroll for hours getting new content with comments on it

PeleSpirit ,

Unfortunately, that is true for me as well. I’m officially addicted to Lemmy now.

lemmyshmemmy ,

Yeah. I’m ok with it for now, it’s better than reddit and helping to establish the fediverse.

lemmyshmemmy ,

Yeah. I’m ok with it for now, it’s better than reddit and helping to establish the fediverse.

lemmyshmemmy ,

Yeah. I’m ok with it for now, it’s better than reddit and helping to establish the fediverse.

lemmyshmemmy ,

Yeah. I’m ok with it for now, it’s better than reddit and helping to establish the fediverse.

can ,

Protip: if you hit submit and it doesn’t look like it went through it probably did

deweydecibel ,

It’s a bit of both. No, the place isn’t empty, but it’s still not populated enough for content to aggregate as well as it does on Reddit.

Content aggregates based on how the users vote. The more votes there are, the more data the algorithm has to work with, the better it can sort content.

Think of it like a waterwheel. On Reddit, the water comes in like Niagra, that wheel can power a city. Here, it’s like modestly sized, gentle river so you’ve got less to work with.

Simultaneously, the waterwheel here is still somewhat under construction, whereas Reddit’s has been a well oiled machine for many years now.

In both cases, time will fix it. Just need a little patience.

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

Big companys dump millions into a perfect algo to milk engagement and ad views. Right now the priority seems to be security and stability before moving on to features. Lemmy blew up pretty much over night. Its going to take time and volunteers to improve.

hitagi ,

I have to sort by “New” because “Hot” is almost always broken. I get posts from two years ago :/ If I sort by “New” however, some of the posts are pretty… eh?

PeleSpirit ,

It was explained to me last week that the reason it does this is, the algorithm currently checks for interaction and if someone interacts with a 3 year old post it gets put in the pool. If I interact by upvoting the old post because I didn’t see the date, it gets put even more into the hot pool. This happens again and again to make posts come back from the dead. Apparently they’re working on adjusting this.

jherazob ,
@jherazob@kbin.social avatar

So, essentially it's 4chan's Bump system?

SPOOSER OP ,

Seems like it, only old posts dont dissapear into the void, they stick around forever.

TheWorstNL ,

Hot sorting algorithm is bugged at the moment. Older posts don’t cool down until the server is restarted so they keep popping up. It is currently fixed for the version to be released.

More technical info here and here.

Xylarthen ,

I had the same issue with Lemmy, so I use Kbin more these days because it seems to be better at getting interesting posts I haven't seen before. I'm sure the Lemmy devs will get to it though.

PenguinJuice ,

Kbinites rise up!

Hypx ,
@Hypx@kbin.social avatar

@Xylarthen

@SPOOSER Getting the algorithm right is a challenge. Reddit struggled to get a balance of both interesting topics while keeping spam off of the front-page. Kbin/Lemmy will have the same problem. Kbin seems to do a better job than Lemmy IMO, but it still lets too many memeposts/shitposts on the front page. You still have to block the worse offenders.

Vlhacs ,

I felt the same way, but it’s mostly due to lemmy’s still premature sorting algorithm. Sorting by New, Top Hour, or Top Six changed my experience drastically. There’s still issues like posts having not enough involvement through comments, and duplicate posts from similar communities, but overall it’s much better after about a month in.

Magrath ,

I feel you. Hot just doesn’t work like it did on Reddit. I get swamped with posts from the most active communities and some old posts. It doesn’t give me a nice spread of all my subbed communities like Reddit did. Also when browsing all it gave randomly showed me like 10 posts from some long nosed dog community. Did it twice so I blocked that community. Probably not on them, but just an issue with the Hot algorithm.

deweydecibel ,

Keep in mind Reddit gets a frillion votes a minute. Votes are the data the algorithm uses to aggregate those pages, and they’ve had years to perfect how it does that.

Here we just don’t have the data yet. “Hot” doesn’t work well because, for all intents and purposes, nothing on the site gets above lukewarm in terms of votes.

Magrath ,

Hot shouldn’t be a set number of votes though. It should all be relative so that it can scale with the site. If 100 up votes in an hour would constitute hot today it wouldnt be the same if the active users doubled at some point. So to call anything at best lukewarm now would be incorrect when talking in the fediverse.

iRyu ,

I feel your pain! Sorting by Top 6 Hours is my current go to, mostly because I only scroll every few hours or so. Additionally, I start by scrolling through “Home” then transition to “All” if I feel like it. If you use the voyager app, there’s a new function to hide read posts, which could be helpful to you, as well!

933k ,
@933k@lemmy.world avatar

That “top 6 hours” tip is great, thanks for sharing

Saturdaycat ,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

Nuh uh, you're lame! Lame-o!

.

JK!! I am on kbin and as others suggested to play around with the settings, otherwise just engage to your hearts content !

Fibby ,
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I like to sort by top of the hour. Gives you recent posts that you can still engage with but is more filtered than “new”.

ristoril_zip ,

I sort by new comments and that does pretty well.

WackyTabbacy42069 ,

There’s just not as many people here as there is on Reddit. Things will be slow for as long as we don’t have large numbers. Best thing you can do to make things better is engage frequently and spread the good word of Lemmy

SPOOSER OP ,

Thanks, I’ll keep trying to do my part to grow my favorite communities on Lemmy.

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