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Kaboom ,

Theres a bunch of factors that go into good protests. Stuff like a single unified message (Occupy Wallstreet), good visibility (any random protest on a random street corner), a position that isnt stupid (The proud boys), if the media likes you, and probably a bunch more.

The key problem with Israel vs Palestine is that Israel is western, works with Nato, is in the UN, doesnt execute rape victims, doesnt execute gay people, claims keep coming true, etc.

Palestine on the other hand, is 99% Sunni Muslim for a very nasty reason.

Its a very dumb and uninformed position, spread by genodical maniacs.

theodewere ,
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if protests did nothing, they wouldn't be forbidden in China and Russia and every other autocratic society

RedditWanderer ,

Also there’s the American protest, where the opposing political party mounts a counter protests and politicians let them fight amongst each other. Then there’s the French protest, where they set the barbecue on the tram tracks and walk in milions for days.

Not all protests are equal

Rooskie91 ,

Yeah they shoot us when we try to protest like the French? Kinda tired of this comparison because it’s not apples to apples. America’s protest laws are not kind and they’re getting worse.

RedditWanderer ,

Laughs in Hong Kong, or any other major protest in the last decade.

kadotux ,
@kadotux@lemmings.world avatar

No they wouldn’t. If they did, the uproar would be massive. Or maybe not, idk, I’m not a yankee.

beefbaby182 ,
@beefbaby182@lemmy.world avatar

No

Masterblaster ,

i'm pretty sure you could crowdsource an assassination and get more results,.

Masterblaster ,

with or without guns?

TropicalDingdong ,

Only ones that can materially disrupt things.

A protest with a permit or with permission is a parade.

Adramis ,

Even those can still have some benefit - it can act as a networking opportunity for people to meet each other and plan other events / get involved in other ways, it can give a morale boost to people considering giving up, etc.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Some, but not all.

Just remember, if the protest is peaceful and easy to ignore then nothing will probably get done. You must disrupt the flow.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
@PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world avatar

It depends if you live in a fascist regime or a democratic one.

SportsRulesOpinions ,
@SportsRulesOpinions@lemmy.world avatar

You need to use your protests as recruiting grounds for more direct pressure on your government. You should establish or join a lobbying organization and recruit volunteers. You will have these people write letters to the editor, solicit for donations, call and write to your representatives, and schedule in-person meetings with government officials.

Standing on the street and yelling by itself is not enough, you need to become a part of the establishment to affect change, but you can grow your organization by finding people who have proven to be motivated. A protest is a great place for that sort of thing.

memfree ,
@memfree@lemmy.ml avatar

You’ve summed up the key take-aways I got from my youthful protests of days gone by. 1) Teach the newbies about the current protest issue and possibly related issues. 2) Recruit. 3) Make contacts. 4) ORGANIZE. Not everyone can lead or organize for an issue, but everyone can be a helper. Your local government officials don’t care about your single voice, but they DO care if you represent a block of voters that are going to vote based on policy X. A petition with a bunch of signatures means more than a single letter, but an organized group with many letters and petitions and phone calls all identifying as voting members of Anti-Fraking-Club (or whatever), which meets every Y days and wants new regulation Z … that will get more attention. It might not be enough to combat the deep pockets on the other side, but enumerating the members of an organized voting block is better than noting some rabble rousers in the streets.

Melkath ,

Nope.

The world is fucked.

Only thing that could possibly turn the tides would be a massive return to the guillotine.

SnotFlickerman ,
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Preceding the Iraq War, there was the largest worldwide protest in history to try to stop the war from happening.

Protests are helpful at showing public sentiment, but they rarely change policy.

MLK was assassinated after he started focusing on class issues. The FBI tried to threaten him with an anonymous letter telling him to kill himself.

The Stop Cop City protestors in Atlanta are being charged with terrorism.

Maeve ,

Fred Hampton. Gandhi. Leftist governments that won’t bend to fascist/capitalist countries’ bidding. Edward Snowden, Julian Assange. Real threats are “reasoned with,” and if that fails, neutralized.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

thats why leaders should only be placeholders. the real power is in the people agreeing and following the ideals.

Maeve ,

Exactly!

ace_garp ,
@ace_garp@lemmy.world avatar

Immediately after the UK anti-war protests, I remember seeing how shaky Tony Blair was in a sabre-rattling speech (The same day or a day after), knowing that 1million people had hit the streets to disagree with what he was saying.

So they are acknowledged by politicians.

Policy on the looming war did not change, due to back-scratching alliances between the countries involved. The USA was shouting ‘jump’. The result, Allies: ‘how high’.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Good thing that just like the USA that they replaced Blair with someone who just had the balls to be an absolute piece of shit with zero remorse. Donald Trump and Boris Johnson make Blair and Bush look like fucking brilliant men of great integrity, which they are assuredly not.

leraje ,
@leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yes because:

  1. There is a visible action taking place. You are standing for something you believe in. This gives other people who may lack confidence or opportunity something to notice.
  2. Those in authority cannot claim what they do is an unopposed position.
  3. Those you are protesting on behalf of, even if they are going through hell, know that someone somewhere is not prepared to let their circumstances go unnoticed.
  4. Those you are protesting against know that someone sees what they are doing.
greentreerainfire ,

Maybe if the person who’s actions are being protested against are reasonable. When protesters are met by military forces and detained in trumped up charges of terrorism, then they don’t work until there looks to be consequences for the person/group being protested.

As a rule of thumb if you have the military on your side protests get crushed. Look at Egypt for an example of what happens once the military gets involved.

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain](The Battle of Blair Mountain) is a good example on the US end. Striking US mine workers crushed by the US military on US soil. You could argue that it was one of many events that led to labor protections, but it wasn’t the inviting event and those protections came more than a decade later.

OttoVonNoob ,

Yes, mobilization is a strong message to government in democracy. It says we do not like the direction, we are going and we will vote you out or cause more disruption. In my town we mobilized in front of our MP’s office due to the partial privatization of medcial aid. Our MP ended up changing his vote and siding against his party, as it was the will of the people. Participation in democracy is a powerful tool.

Fubarberry ,
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Protests generally don’t change policy, although politicians may use them as justification for something they already want to push through.

RightHandOfIkaros ,

Sometimes. It depends on a lot of factors. Protests can convince people to change their mind, it has happened in the past and does happen on some situations these days as well. Protests can also have negative effects as well, considering things like where, when, and how a protest is carried out can either change people’s minds or entrench them even more in their own opinion.

At the end of the day, the outcome of a protest is just as unpredictable as what a person will do in ten years. Or even the next hour, really.

fastandcurious OP ,
@fastandcurious@lemmy.world avatar

Hmmm, ig it works if people in charge are actually someone who are willing to accept their mistakes and change their minds, which does not seem to be the case for the situation in question

MMNT ,

Protests rarely have a fast rate of changing political situations. Take a look at the suffragette movement. There is also a big difference of success between peaceful and violent protests.

umbrella ,
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I dunno, effective protesting will most of the time target the rich, or oil companies etc. instead of changing peoples minds. talking is a good tool for that instead.

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