Honda's commercials saying they are going to be carbon neutral by 2050. What?

Luvs2Spuj , 6 months ago

By 2050 we will be so fucked no one will be paying attention.

theKalash , 6 months ago

How would it be possible for a car company to be carbon neutral?

By only using carbon neutral energy in their manufacturing? Car companies are really not special in that regard.

I’m not saying that’s going to happen and that they aren’t posturing. But like there is no fundamental mystery to the “how”.

DrownedRats , 6 months ago

It means they’re either holding out of a sudden breakthrough that will let them become carbon neutral overnight for free or they’re hoping no one will be around to call them out on their bullshit by then

peastea , 6 months ago

While it’s a different company I think Bosch as an automotive supplier can serve as an example on how this can be calculated as they are already “carbon neutral”.

www.bosch.com/sustainability/environment/

At present, we use carbon credits to offset residual CO₂ emissions, such as from combustion processes (heating, process heat). In addition, we refer to carbon credits to offset electricity sourced in countries with only limited availability of green electricity. As we make progress with levers 1 to 3, we want to gradually reduce the share that we offset to achieve carbon neutrality to no more than 15 percent by 2030.

TheInsane42 , 6 months ago

They can, when they limit CO2 emissions as much as possible and compensatw for the remaining emissions by planting trees and other tricks.

Also, ‘being carbon neutral’ can mean several things:

• ensure the company doesn’t produce CO2 (net)
• ensure the company and the commute of the employees doesn’t produce CO2 (net)
• … plus suppliers
• … plus transport of the goods produced
• …

And so on,… it all is just how you define it.

My house is the greenest in the neighbourhood and probably in the country. That it has nothing to do with being eco friendly but more with the paint on it is just a minor detail. ;)

ISometimesAdmin , 6 months ago

Thank you for actually attempting to answer the question instead of just spouting the knee-jerk reaction of "it's bullshit".

And yes, maybe it is bullshit. Maybe they'll never end up actually offsetting their carbon footprint. Maybe they'll think they are, but end up getting scammed out themselves. Last Week Tonight did a great piece on Carbon Offsets on that whole subject.

Ensign_Crab , 6 months ago

I remember when the future date for goals no one intended to meet was 2030.

lettruthout , 6 months ago

Yeah…. Well… The future isn’t what it used to be.

Hegar , 6 months ago

Roche pharma also has a goal to reduce their cost to society by half by 2030.

What does that mean? What metric measures cost to society? What will they actually do? Nothing, nothing, nothing.

Fake4000 , 6 months ago

Most probably carbon offsetting

m.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8zAbFKpW0

iturnedintoanewt , 6 months ago

This should be the top comment.

blazera , 6 months ago

As for honda yeah theyre bullshitting. But as for a car company being carbon neutral, where does it become impossible?

DebatableRaccoon , 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

Same way phone manufacturers are aiming to be 100% green by passing off all the blame to the client. “We may have made it impossible for you to change the battery once it’s fucked but it was your choice to throw the phone in the bin”