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Everythingispenguins ,

Um I think that not knowing is kind of the point. If we knew how it worked then it wouldn’t be the “after life” it would just be page two. Part of life is the unknowns. It is not always about figuring out the unknowns but learning to let go of them. They will always be unknown it is much better to learn to let them be and let go.

dope OP ,

So, semantically speaking, it can’t exist. Ok.

Everythingispenguins ,

I don’t believe that is what I said at all but okay…

dope OP ,

Sorry if that was trite. I was going off your “If we knew what it was then it wouldn’t be the afterlife” thing.

Meho_Nohome ,
@Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works avatar

I know that if you martyr yourself there are 72 virgins waiting for you. That’s pretty much all I know. I’m not even sure what species the virgins will be.

synae ,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You have to manage a bunch of failing record stores. It’s a very saturated market, good luck.

dope OP ,

Congratulations faithful one. These 72 pure and virginal manta-rays are yours to plow.

sneezycat ,
@sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

If the reply is rational, it won’t.

BlameThePeacock ,

Assuming the Christian afterlife, it would be chock full of dead babies and children. They would outnumber adults significantly. Every single failed pregnancy, tiny little unformed baby angels. Even fertilized eggs that just fail to implant, Little blastocysts with wings…

It’s something like 1 in 3 fertilized eggs never get born. Then given global infant and child mortality, another good chunk die really young.

Add on top of that the fact that a good chunk of adults are going to hell, and presto, you have a heaven full of children with an average age well below puberty.

Given that, it’s probably a perpetual pizza party with a ball-pit and some mascots running while listening to baby shark.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Scripture says the soul enters the body on the first breath.

And anyone who still argues anyhow… will likely say they’re condemned to hell because they were unable to accept their “lord and savior” (who ostensibly created everything so he could larp as such,)

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

I thought that’s what purgatory was for (if we ignore no biblical mention of it iirc).

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

it’s not technically a place at all, but a state of existence. Basically, its the final purification of souls before being admitted into heaven; Catholics will say that if you die outside of god’s grace, you don’t go to purgatory at all, just straight to hell. (do not pass go, do not collect 200 god coins.) protestants (especially weslians, and maybe eastern orthodox, but don’t quote me on that,) would say that the final purification happens in the moment of death. (Wesely basically argued that they had become perfect enough in life.)

thisbenzingring ,

Heaven in Johnny the Homicidal Maniac is how I imagined it.

readallcomics.com/johnny-the-homicidal-maniac-006…

funkless_eck ,

what the other guy said about first breath but also many people vastly overestimate how many humans there have been.

There have been more humans born since 1900 than before (since humans first appeared).

BlameThePeacock ,

Not as far as any data I’ve seen…

prb.org/…/how-many-people-have-ever-lived-on-eart….

117 Billion Humans ever

www.weforum.org/…/quantifying-human-existence/

109 Billion Humans…

funkless_eck ,

ah, then I was misinformed.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

afterlife, it would be chock full of dead babies and children

Alive babies and children, I guess.

Why do you think they are dead then?

thisbenzingring ,

The Lakota believed that this existence was only part of it all and when you died you would find a path before you. Depending on your life the path would have different characteristics. So if you are missed by your living family and your ancestors are proud of your choices, the path would be easy and it would come out unto the land of hunting and games until your passing onto the other. But if you don’t leave a good life and brought shame your path would be long dark and full of obstacles. You might forget who you are and be lost until the next world

This is what Black Elk kinda describes of the old world

Kissaki ,

There is no rationality in speculating about the afterlife.

MacDangus ,

Wow you’re amazingly smart and helpful.

dope OP ,

That is arguable.

Any exploration into strange realms of life, memory or consciousness (and there have been many of those) might shed useful light on the subject for speculation.

Witchfire ,
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

Just take some shrooms man

dope OP ,

I appreciate the idea, and do have some experience with that, but these days I prefer Vipassana meditation.

It’s kind of a manual version of tripping.

It takes practice, slower, smoother, better control, permanent and has no ceiling.

MoreOrLess ,

Everything is arguable

algorithmae ,

You must be a blast at parties

6mementomori ,

it would probably be a sort of universe shaped by ideas, since the most rational thing that could be transported is your consciousness.

dope OP , (edited )

A natural internet maybe. Discarnate dreamers drifting around, talking, looking for fun, spaceless, bodiless, timeless. Until a really good game catches your eye. And then there are rules.

Montagge ,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

Probably just as poorly as life

angelsomething ,

Either like the last episode of “the good place”, or like the short story “the egg”.

JackGreenEarth ,

Maybe you’d like it to be that (The Egg would be my worst nightmare), but I don’t see how it’s rational to speculate that.

angelsomething ,

There is nothing rational about speculating on the afterlife. Ultimately, it’s human to speculate on the unknown. For me personally, “the egg” helped tremendously to overcome my own fear of death, and it turned into an optimistic nihilist.

dope OP ,

Thank you. I will look them up.

Pisodeuorrior ,

I think it would be super awkward if you've been widowed.

I mean, you're supposed to meet everyone again, including your former spouses who had been waiting for you.

JackGreenEarth ,

We don’t (and possibly can’t) know.

uphillbothways ,
@uphillbothways@kbin.social avatar

By violating entropy, I guess.

neptune ,

Some sort of psycho set us up in a simulation and everyone who likes eating beans on Tuesdays, when they die in the simulation, they get moved to a much nicer simulation, with black jack and hookers. Everyone else gets sent to the Matrix, to power the other simulations.

dope OP , (edited )

I think that psycho might be us.

When you dream at night your dreams tend to take the form of your fears, obsessions, desires, hangups, big emotions etc. But you return. The physical world could be called a moderator. It keeps you from descending too far into your personal dreamworld.

But then you die. Same dreamworld, but no moderation. You troll yourself to exhaustion. Might take a million years. Then the physical world draws your attention again, or something.

In greek mythology there’s a forest in the afterlife. Each tree is a soul locked in a catatonic dream-passion. Each fugued out in his personal hallucination. The forest is vast.

magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

It’s impossible to give a rational answer to an inherently irrational question.

HipPriest ,

What if this is the afterlife of a religion we don't know about from our previous existence?

I don't think you can have a rational reply to your question - it's all head canon

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