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rosymind ,

My guess is some form of misguided resentment. Some people detest anyone that they think has it better in life than they do

Godric ,

Sources that aren’t Fox, they don’t deserve clicks:

edition.cnn.com/2023/11/06/us/…/index.html

abcnews.go.com/…/nashville-police-chief-confirms-…

Shardikprime ,

You read the whole thing and it is uncanny:

Hale, a transgender 28-year-old man going by the name “Aiden” Hale, entered The Covenant School on March 27, 2023 in Green Hills, Tennessee – killing six, before being shot and killed by responding officers.

The manifesto detailed thoughts Hale had leading up to what was referred to as “DEATH DAY”, as well as a timeline in which the shooting would take place.

Audrey Hale: “Can’t believe I’m doing this, but I’m ready…I hope my victims aren’t.”

Hale: “I hope I have a high death count.”

Hale: “Kill those kids!!!”

Hale: “going to fancy private schools with those fancy khakis + sports backpacks w/ their daddies mustangs + convertibles.”

Hale: “Wanna kill all you little crackers!!! Bunch of little removeds w/ your white privileges”

Hale: There were several times I could have been caught especially b—ack in the summer of 2021

Hale: “It might be 10 minutes tops. It might be 3-7. Its gunna go quick.”

Burn_The_Right ,

This story originates from Fox News and is distributed by Fox affiliates. Fox News has testified in court (multiple times) that their content is untrue, simply for entertainment, and that no reasonable person would confuse their content for fact-based reporting of true events.

In short, this story lacks veracity. Every word uttered by conservatives is deception or manipulation. This story is written by conservatives. Do not believe it.

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

I’d grab a link from many of the other sources available, but I’m coming to learn that just like reddit, there’s a clique on Lemmy that acts just like MAGAs. When they don’t like a story, they’ll attack the source, not the content.

I get it though, being a commie in this society is hard. At least you have this safe space.

Illuminostro ,

Thanks for letting me know you belong on the blocklist.

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

That’s a rational way of dealing with that which you don’t agree with. Echo chambers breed logical and healthy thinking. Good job.

whyNotSquirrel ,
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t think he can read you anymore

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

Well that’s a shame.

ghostdoggtv ,

Bro, you posted a link to a Fox story

Burn_The_Right ,

Commie? What does calling out fake “news sources” have to do with communism. Can you even define communism? Go ahead. Define it. Then explain what it has to do with calling out Fox News for their own sworn statements.

Your use of right wing buzzwords reveals the weakness of your position. Save your butt-hurt mewling for a conservative platform where fascists are more welcome.

Justfollowingorders1 OP , (edited )

Lmaooooo

There it is!

“Can you even define communism?”

Yeah, fantasy. LOL

This story has been reported by multiple sources now, but it doesn’t matter. Because this doesn’t fit the agenda of the ultra left. It is evident this story was being swept under the rug to hide the truth that mass shootings aren’t just a right wing thing. They’re more often a mental health thing.

And no, I don’t belong to any sort of right wing forums. What I’m saying isn’t radical or really right wing. Do you really want Lemmy to just be another safe space, circle jerk, echo chamber? Where’s the fun in that? How do you improve or learn if you’re never challenged. It’s naive and childish to want to be in places where one is never countered, where points are never challenged.

Burn_The_Right ,

It’s naive and childish to want to be in places where one is never countered, where points are never challenged.

Conservative points are fascist points. Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Never in history has a conservative entered a conversation in good faith. As such, there is no reason to enter into a conversation with a conservative.

Nearly every act of bigotry, misogyny, racism, homophobia, xenophobia, transphobia and antisemitism has been committed by conservatives. We should teach our children why it is immoral to keep relationships with conservatives.

PoliticalAgitator ,

Thanks, your reply made it clear that you’re a cunt and whatever motivations you had for posting this were that of a cunt.

Justfollowingorders1 OP , (edited )

Triggered.

Welcome to america, where even the ultra left are school shooters too. It’s in the culture. It’s in the blood.

Diva ,
@Diva@lemmy.ml avatar

You probably think a white genocide is actually happening

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

I don’t know, I’m a Canadian Jew. I’ve been lectured all sorts of ways of how I should feel these days.

Diva ,
@Diva@lemmy.ml avatar

You sound like a shitty person from everything I’ve seen

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

Yeah, well commies jerking each other off is pretty shitty too.

Diva ,
@Diva@lemmy.ml avatar

Sound based, you’d probably fit in better at the bottom of a pit

PoliticalAgitator ,

And what better way to respond than by adopting the talking points and vocabulary of the far right?

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

Everything that is counter to your opinion is far right. Right?

PoliticalAgitator ,

Nope, but they love that line too.

ghostdoggtv ,

I didn’t even have to read the comments and already I knew you would say that

CmdrShepard ,

Lol all it took to trigger you was for someone to criticize Fox News’ integrity. I’m sure they appreciate you falling on the sword to protect their reputation.

Snowpix ,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

As typical for a conservative, good old fashioned projection!

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

LOL fox is a joke. But the story has some feet. It’s being reported widely, there’s even other sources in this very thread. But I get it, the content makes your butt ouchy

wombatula ,

Yes clearly there is nothing inbetween American Conservative (extreme far right) and Commie. You got it, there are two flavours of politics, commies and 'muricans.

klyde ,
@klyde@lemmy.world avatar

Lmao okay buddy

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

I’m not your buddy pal!

Shardikprime ,

He’s not your pal, friend

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

When they don’t like a story, they’ll attack the source, not the content

We all have finite time and energy. When a source has demonstrated that they will blatantly lie on a regular basis, you can’t blame people who just blow it off without further investigation.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

This story originates from Fox News

No it was Steven Crowder that obtained and originally leaked it. But it should be no surprise that it’s not published on leftist platforms. If you think any corporate news platform is interested in the objective truth, you’re not paying attention.

Burn_The_Right ,

But it should be no surprise that it’s not published on leftist platforms.

So… Normal news outlets are “leftist”?

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Never, ever believe the word of a conservative. Never.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

So… Normal news outlets are “leftist”?

Not sure what you mean by “normal” but sure, some of them could be considered that.

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.

LOL congratulations you’ve been successfully manipulated into tribal nonsense.

masquenox ,

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.

Right-wing narratives is always based on a pack of lies, and so is everything that emanates from it. It’s not “tribalistic,” it’s just right-wing ideology working as designed - protecting and expanding privilege and power.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

That’s just ignorant.

masquenox ,

No… I’m afraid that’s actually what right-wing ideology exists to do - protect and expand the privilege and power of the already privileged and powerful. It has no other reason to exist.

Since that power and privilege is always - as in, with zero exceptions - completely unjustified, it can only be based on lies and nothing else.

That is what right-wing politics is all about. Always has been, always will be. It really is that simple.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I’m sorry that you live like this.

masquenox ,

If you wish to remain confused about this, be my guest… but you cannot claim that nobody ever tried informing you - because somebody just did.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

You’re the one who’s confused. And it’s sad.

masquenox ,

You’ve basically just admitted that you don’t understand, and, more importantly, don’t want to understand, why you are being fed the propaganda you are being fed.

I’d say it’s best that you don’t go around calling others confused, no?

helenslunch , (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Ummm I’ve done nothing of the sort and have no idea what you’re talking about.

I’d say it’s best you don’t go around fabricating nonsense that other people have said, no?

masquenox ,

Ummm I’ve done nothing of the sort

Did you or did you not have a reactionary episode when somebody informed you about something you were in complete ignorance of?

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

No I did not. I think you have me confused with someone else.

masquenox ,

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Really?

Right, then… right-wing narratives is always based on a pack of lies, and so is everything that emanates from it.

It’s not “tribalistic,” it’s just right-wing ideology working as designed - protecting and expanding privilege and power.

HerrBeter ,

Crowder’s a idiot and propagandist at heart

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

And?

Godric ,

edition.cnn.com/2023/11/06/us/…/index.html

abcnews.go.com/…/nashville-police-chief-confirms-…

Burn_The_Right ,

Excellent. Thank you for sharing real news links.

JustZ , (edited )
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Now do the writings from the other 100 mass shooters this year… Oh yeah they are Trump loving America-First nut jobs and their writing mimics the conspiracy theories and racism of Republican leadership. Let’s see the writings of the Trump supporter who stabbed a six year old fifty times just like two weeks ago.

FontMasterFlex ,

we should be able to see them all. i don’t know why you’re making it a partisan issue.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

You can and it’s not.

What we should see are the bodies.

The kids splattered beyond recognition by military weaponry.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Would it make you feel better if they were killed by pipe bombs or zip guns?

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

If they were as accessible and available as guns such that in the mind of many Americans they represent solutions to problems instead of the problem itself, no I would feel the same. They aren’t though and it’s not a smart analogy.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

You’re right, they’re much more accessible.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah? You’ve seen the handwritten journals of right wing mass shooters?

Handwritten journals don’t get released, at least not outside the legal process. Social media posts get released, they’re public.

Are you really this clueless?

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Huh? We were talking about pipe bombs and zip guns, not journals. Are you really this clueless?

acceptable_pumpkin ,

If you’re just going to be an ass, explain why we don’t see mass killings with pipe bombs or zip guns since they’re so much more accessible? Or are you really this clueless?

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Sorry I don’t engage with those who repeatedly hurl personal attacks.

theyoyomaster ,

When there is a right wing manifesto for a shooting it is very quickly released to the public. That is why there is controversy around this because it appears to be blatantly partisan to block a manifesto simply for being from the “wrong” side.

Justfollowingorders1 OP , (edited )

Bingo. I agree, typically these shootings are done by more radical right wingers, but the one time it’s done by mentally ill leftist, there’s a blatant effort to keep it under wraps.

Edit: lol keep downvoting… I’m still right.

theyoyomaster ,

The majority of them aren’t specifically left or right. There’s been a few right ones in the last few years that are paraded in the news nonstop but nowhere near enough to call it “typical.” The silence around this one is far more telling than the actual statistics on motives. Now if you expand the definitions beyond random public massacres and include gang shootings to get to the desired “300th mass shooting this year” metric then the typical politics of the shooters swing wildly away from the right.

The bottom line is the perpetrators of the type of horrific events the average person thinks of when they hear “mass shooting” are going for media attention which triggers more. The media coverage is the final cause of these so nonstop coverage highlighting a right wing connection sets off other deranged people with similar thoughts. I don’t think any of them on either side should get the attention or publicity but selecting which ideologies to give 24/7 coverage is even worse than publicizing them all.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

There’s “controversy” around this because insecure males get too uncomfortable when an effeminate male makes their pee pees tingle.

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

The literal point of this post is to point out there seems to be an actual conspiracy to sweep this case under the rug.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah there’s not though.

CmdrShepard ,

It’s very common for the far right to fabricate a story and then use that fabrication as “evidence of a conspiracy to hide the truth because nobody else is talking about this thing we made up!”

It’s a perfect positive feedback loop for the rubes out there.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I know. Crowder and Shapiro and all of them get a fax every morning with daily, far-right talking points. It’s easy to coordinate and organize your messaging when your benefactors have unlimited money.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Most manifestos are not publicly disclosed because it encourages followers. Most actual manifestos (this is more akin to a diary) are not written down in a notebook, they are digitally sent out to the public and promptly archived in 100 different libraries.

Google, Meta etc all have policies against publishing manifestos. It’s in their ToS, you can read it for yourself.

ghostdoggtv , (edited )

The name of the game is statistical significance.

Edit: changed relevance to significance

Franzia ,

news community posts fox news

Thanks for your contribution to Rupert Murdoch’s fascism circus being out in front of my eyeballs every single fucking day.

Justfollowingorders1 OP ,

salutes in murican

CmdrShepard ,

This poor guy probably never saw the text messages released in the Dominion lawsuit between Fox talent like Tucker Carlson and management describing their audience as a bunch of gullible morons.

This feels like a situation where everyone knows about a person cheating on their spouse, except for the spouse, and everyone is too uncomfortable to say anything to them about it.

half_built_pyramids ,

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    Chais ,
    @Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

    What a poor attempt at trolling.

    Franzia ,

    Lmao

    JustZ ,
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    half_built_pyramids ,

    Updoot

    BrianTheFirst ,

    It's fucking pathetic that people can't handle anything without a sarcasm tag these days.

    Iapar ,

    I can understand it. Satire and reality are just too close these days.

    https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/ff89a795-38d8-408f-9db3-e41ab890fdd4.jpeg

    Pretzilla ,

    “does it contribute to the discussion” is the intended use of the up/down vote

    DarkThoughts ,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I don’t understand the kids part. Maybe because they’re easy kills? Even if this is about class, it’s not going to win anyone over if kids are dying.

    YoBuckStopsHere ,
    @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

    So the whole reason to block the writings are to hide the fact the shooter targeted wealthy families and to prevent copycats.

    The attack definitely falls under class warfare. Why target kids though? That’s the f’d up part of this.

    qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

    From Wikipedia, it appears that he attended school there when he was 10, and the victims were age 9. Sounds like a very targeted motive for the shooting.

    YoBuckStopsHere , (edited )
    @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

    Absolutely, but the targets were not their bullies. They were just kids.

    qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

    Yeah. That’s messed up.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    Sounds like the ahooter saw it as attacking the setting/system and not individuals. Fucked up since the 9 year old kids don't choose where they attend or what socioeconomic class they are a part of.

    No, there was no need to release the manifesto and it was only released to stoke the "whites are in danger" crowd.

    Murvel ,

    A white FtM, fighting white privilege by killing children. That is what I managed to gather.

    Snowpix ,
    @Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

    Do note that the source is Fox Entertainment. (Legally they aren’t a news source.) This is to be taken with a massive grain of salt, as they have been proven to intentionally post misinformation to further their agenda.

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