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Dozens of health organizations pledge ‘full support’ for federal ban on menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars

Eighty national public health groups, including the American Heart Association, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American College of Preventative Medicine, placed a full-page ad in Sunday’s edition of the Washington Post in support of a federal ban on menthol in cigarettes and all flavored cigars.

“The answer is clear,” the full-page ad says. “Saving lives starts by ending the sale of menthol cigarettes and all flavored cigars.

“Smoking kills nearly half a million people in the United States each year, and these addictive, deadly products are a big part of the problem. The FDA and White House have our full support to release lifesaving rules prohibiting menthol cigarettes and all flavored cigars.”

ArbitraryValue ,

If we don’t stand with smokers and stop the American Heart Association now, then by the time it comes to force us to eat right and exercise, it’ll be too late.

ivanafterall ,
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I'd love to stand with smokers, but standing makes me winded.

EyesInTheBoat ,
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Have you run a marathon this week? No? Your medical insurance rates are 2x until you resolve this problem.

Zerlyna ,
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I don’t smoke but isn’t flavored vape essentially the same and that is legal?

pan_troglodytes ,

is it?

you have to invest quite a bit more than the $6 that a pack of menthol cigarettes is going to cost into a vaporizer setup.

vaporizers also dont use tobacco, but nicotine, and have varying levels of nicotine - some formulations have no nicotine. there’s also no tar or the 400+ chemicals involved with burning tobacco.

TurboDiesel ,
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$6 that a pack of menthol cigarettes

Not sure where you are, but a pack is almost $25 here.

pan_troglodytes ,

wow where is that?

WarmSoda ,

Unless you’re going to a reservation any cigarettes you buy are going to be at least $15 a pack. The bigger the city the bigger the price.

$6 a pack was like 30 years ago

AngryCommieKender ,

It’s probably $6-7 in KY, NC, and SC still. I was in Lexington KY last year this time, and IIRC the packs were around that. I roll with a topomatic so I get pipe tobacco which runs $22 a pound in CA where I live, and was $13 a pound in KY. Just not for Camels, Newports, or Marlboro those are all like $10 in KY

WarmSoda ,

Oh NC is like a magical land of good cigarette prices. If you’re a snowbird that doesn’t fly you’re stopping in NC and loading up.

scottywh ,

There are very few places in the US where a pack of cigarettes is $15+

_dev_null ,
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1993 I could get a pack of GPCs for $0.99. The name brands were about $2.00 a pack when bought as a carton. I remember watching the prices climb, hearing NYC was like $8.00, and I was like fuuuuuck.

TurboDiesel ,
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New York. For better or worse, they’re essentially trying to tax people out of smoking.

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    Rai ,

    Disposable vapes should be illegal for sure. Everywhere. Like it’s not fucking hard to change a coil. It’s not hard to even wrap a coil and change a cotton wick. Disposables are the shittiest laziest things and create insane amounts of waste, like you said.

    Quick edit: make your own juice, wrap your own coils, and vaping is basically free from then on.

    SheeEttin ,

    Lots of places are banning those too.

    Which is really stupid, because they’re also banning the zero-nicotine ones that aren’t harmful and aren’t addictive (though may be habit-forming in the same way as snacking or drinking any beverage). Also they’re useful to people trying to quit smoking because even the ones with nicotine are far less harmful than smoking.

    ZombieTheZombieCat ,

    When are we going to start banning flavored alcohol like White Claw and Mike’s while we’re at it

    stolid_agnostic ,

    You do have a point but the danger is far higher on the tabaco side. Priorities and such, we won’t see anything like that for quite some time.

    MagicShel ,

    Is it though? I’m pretty sure alcohol is the most destructive legal drug there is. But prohibition didn’t go so great last time so don’t take that as a call to start banning sweet alcohol, I just disagree with the assertion that tobacco is worse.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    I’m suggesting that the negative health effects are more pronounced with tobacco.

    MagicShel ,

    And I disagree. I’ve been around a lot of barely functioning alcoholics in my life. But this isn’t me arguing that you’re flat out wrong, just questioning it because it doesn’t line up with my experience.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    And yet someone with real data posted something that says that tobacco actually causes more deaths. I presume that yours was the one downvote.

    MagicShel ,

    Nah. I rarely downvote unless someone says something exceptionally stupid. I might argue that deaths is a narrow way to measure, but it’s certainly valid and facts are facts. I’m glad that was posted.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    For the record I’m not attempting to disagree with you. When you add in the collateral toll that alcohol takes, its impact may indeed be greater than tobacco. I was referring specifically to the toxicity of cigarettes. Although there is likely a safe amount of alcohol you can consume, there is no safe level of smoking you can take on. My comments have been confined specifically to this area.

    MagicShel ,

    Yeah it’s not a hill I’m going to die on. Neither one is healthy.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    According to global statistics, Alcohol was responsible for 5% of global deaths, while tobacco squeaked past with 8% of global deaths.

    academic.oup.com/eurpub/article/29/2/200/5407688

    freeindv ,

    The real priority is to work to eliminate the power of public health to dictate private life choices.

    finthechat ,
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    Please don't joke this into existence

    AbidanYre ,

    It worked out so well the last time we tried.

    ByteJunk ,
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    Menthol and other flavoured cigarettes were banned in the EU years ago, and I don’t recall much of a fuss, not sure why this would be an issue in the US.

    My experience was that long time smokers weren’t the ones smoking menthol and other weird stuff, it was mostly kids that didn’t like tobacco.

    AbidanYre ,

    I was referring to the comment about banning certain types of booze in the US and what happened when we tried that before.

    ByteJunk ,
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    Yep, I know. Which is why I pointed to the example that is actually relevant, as the EU passed this exact law years ago.

    But I don’t suppose you troubled yourself with that, and I get it. Going down that road might actually force you to reconsider your perspective at some point, or alternatively, deal with a massive and inconvenient cognitive dissonance, so instead you chose the safe path and stick to your cautionary tale because it validates your reasoning, if we just ignore for a moment the fact that it’s irrelevant regarding this specific instance and a better source was available to educate us about the effects of this legislation.

    AbidanYre ,

    Yeah, I don’t know what has your panties in such a twist, but I also don’t really care enough about you or menthol cigarettes to be a part of it, so you’ll have to pick a fight with someone else.

    I was just making a joke about America’s history of banning things people like.

    Phegan ,

    There ain’t to laws when you cracking claws.

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