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SuddenlyBlowGreen ,

For example, the quote about slaves in Exodus was not a teaching. It’s historical context about law at that time. That verse was intended to prevent brutalities towards slaves

It’s not a teaching, it just explicitly tells people what to do and not to do. Makes sense.

(which at the time were either hired labourers or in indebted servitude who literally sold themselves to pay off a debt, they were freed or “released” when the monetary value of their debt was paid off. It’s not the same as the term for slavery we commonly associate with the it today).

Hired laborers and indentured servants whom you could beat and abuse, and had no freedom of their own. Hmm, I wonder if there’s a word for that…

The wording that if a slave survives for a day or two was used to determine intent, as it was considered that if someone survives for a couple days after being punished then something else was also the cause of death, and not a direct result of the punishment enacted.

Ultimately the point here is that this isn’t a “teaching” in any way. Some things in the Bible are just historical facts and context.

It’s not a teaching, it just explicitly tells people what to do and not to do. Makes sense.

Timothy 2:12 (I know you mean 1 Timothy even though you didn’t specify, because there’s a 1 Timothy and a 2 Timothy)

You’re very clever, congratulations.

also needs context, because that scripture is about spiritual matters. It’s like a chain of command for the purposes of order. This is something that you cannot pull a single scripture out and use only that as an example. There are many other scriptures that expand on this. For example, a man/husband is supposed to treat his wife like his own body and like a “weaker vessel” (implying a delicate and gentle approach), and anyone who does not hates himself and God.

You can give all the context you want, that’s sexism, plain and simple.

It’s like a chain of command for the purposes of order.

A chain of command you cannot change, that is not based on knowledge or experience, but on what’s between your legs.

Corinthians 11:5-6 - (which Corinthians? There’s two of them)

Or not so clever, I guess.

We have this wonderful new technology called google. Feel free to use it.

Or not, since it was created by the devil of science.

how is this torture? It’s just about head coverings, and one that’s often taken out of context. Verse 11 and 12 say *“Besides, in connection with the Lord, neither is woman separate from man nor is man separate from woman. 12 For just as the woman is from the man, so also the man is through the woman; but all things are from God.”

The Bible doesn’t teach dominating and torturing people, for one.

Forcing women to shave their heads sure sounds like dominating to me…

Basically neither man or women are better than the other, both are from God and that’s all that matters.

Men aren’t forced to shave their hair, and using your analogy, they are always higheron the chain of command than women.

Titus 2:9-10 - You could literally replace “slave” with employee and “master” with boss or CEO, and then no one would say boo. As I mentioned earlier, the term slave is not the dehumanizing one we often use. Its modern counterpart is very close to “employee”.

Except CEOs aren’t allowed to beat up employees, and employees are free to leave.

Colossians 3:22-24, Leviticus 25:44-46, Peter 2:18 - same argument, because the term slave in these verses are not what you are attributing to it.

“Employees, be subject to your CEOs with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.”

And all of this not even talking about the rampant homophobia, genocide, etc commanded in the bible

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