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bobman ,

Wait, everyone was telling me this only happened in China.

Huh. You mean it’s okay for America to spy on its citizens but not the Chinese? I guess I am a stupid tool who doesn’t realize there’s a trade war going on and both nations pull the exact same shit with their populace as the other.

bobman ,

Just gotta start wearing masks in public.

Number1SummerJam ,
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The technology allows law enforcement agencies to feed images from video surveillance into software that can search government databases or social media for a possible match.

This alone should be enough to get people to stop using corporate social media

Spedwell ,

Although this is likely from crawling, which would apply to any federated social media too once it becomes large enough to be on their radar.

18107 ,

Facial recognition and AI are great tools to assist law enforcement.
Relying on them as sole sources of information is just stupid.

shiroininja ,

They should only be used if they are open source, and viewable by the public to be checked for biases and bugs. Unfortunately, they are mostly black box technology made by companies.

SquishyPandaDev ,
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Facial recognition and AI are way to easy to abuse. It significantly out ways the benefits. This technology should be totally banned.

Especially AI. It will allow unprecedented and appalling levels of inequality. Like walled ghettos. Government AI scares the hell out of me

snooggums ,
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The only way they will assist law enforcement in practice is giving the police and excuse to detain the wrong people.

AA5B ,

And being able to hide the usage by saying “a reliable informant …” should be criminal

Jimbo ,
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I don’t understand why an AI match can’t at least be vetted by an actual person more or less on the spot!

Like

Hey AI matched you as this criminal individual, are you this person

gives ID

Oh you’re not that person, sorry our bad.

It’s still not great but much better than this.

jonne ,

Have you seen cops? They’ll use any excuse to lock someone up, they’re not going to ‘take the risk of letting a suspect go’.

Jimbo ,
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Yeah I am assuming a world where cops don’t arrest black people because they feel like it lol

FuglyDuck ,
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I don’t think you understand how it works. So the process is simple. a crime happens. the cops are called, they collect whatever surveillance video they can get, or maybe it was a cell phone camera, or something. they load it up to the AI software, which then runs it against government databases (probably driver’s license photos) and maybe images on social media.

it was the initial identification that was off- and should have been entirely avoidable here: the guy lived in Georgia, and the warrant issued in Louisiana. or, you know. Three states away. It disproportionately impacts black people because the training data used was mostly with white people.

checking to see that they match the provided identification doesn’t work because they never had a reliable ID to begin with. Chances are, any video of photos uploaded to get an id is going to be dogshit. Security camera DVR’s usually prioritize holding for about 30 days, which either requires a shit load of storage or a whole lot of compression. And this assumes the cameras are even capable of 4k. or 1080p or 720p. and then you got problems like dust and dirt (especially if it’s outside,) obscuring the camera, or bad lighting, or whatever it is happening too far away.

most times, you’re really only going to be able to get a general description off security cameras “White male with brown hair and scruffy beard and about five-six”. and that’s on a good system. shitty systems set up in the 80’s? that’s going to be more like… “it was a person.”

snooggums ,
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Have you seen the false positives by police? They think all black people look alike too.

SeaPancake ,

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/d3428995-1184-4c13-9037-d43f4310ea2a.webp

KevonLooney ,

“You match the description.”

The description:

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E11/147079.jpg?b64lines=IFNVU1BFQ1QgSVMgSEFUTEVTUy4gClJFUEVBVC0tSEFUTEVTUy4%3D

bobman ,

Because the entire point of AI is to remove human labor from the equation.

SquishyPandaDev ,
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If only there were people who could have warned us. Oh wait.

bobman ,

Everyone was warning us this was going on in China.

Funny how nobody holds the US government to the same standard as China’s. Probably because there’s a trade war going on and these fools don’t realize how much propaganda they’ve sucked up to support it.

bernieecclestoned ,

Please link to the Chinese media reporting on it like this is then?

This is literally holding the US to the same standards? Or do you think the article is praising the tech?

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