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Nepenthe ,
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A spokesperson for Marina Port Vell said that the boat had not been damaged in Friday’s action. “After a quick action on behalf of the security team, the incident has been corrected and the boat is now in a perfect state,” the spokesperson told CNN.

Cannot stress enough that a new paint job is not the kind of action that's going to fix jack shit. More than likely, it's barely an annoyance. Few people on the planet have not heard the message already. If you don't want them joyriding a massive yacht everywhere, remove the yacht.

HeartyBeast ,
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Are you volunteering?

Nepenthe , (edited )
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Uh. Lemme check. Yes. We're well past the "please stop killing me, it's really mean :(" stage. They know. They are choosing to jetset anyway.

If the disgustingly rich haven't shifted their focus by now, they've basically made their stance known already and stuff like this strikes me as just toying around. It makes activists feel like they accomplished something, and then it's rectified quite literally the same day and everyone continues about their business.

Wanna join in or would your parents worry?

Touching_Grass ,

Its self masturbatory. It makes themselves feel like they did something but grosses out most other people. These types of activist whose strategy is to do something shocking just to get press are always counter productive. As if they can’t reason how they’re speaking to the choir

naught ,

I feel like I know your opinion on climate protests blocking roads etc now…

Touching_Grass ,

Not just my opinion. You would know what the majority and growing opinion on it is. Which is why most of those protest are backed by fossil industries. They stopped trying to fight these groups and started funding the most annoying of them.

CeruleanRuin ,

Ah yes, the legendary false flag.

Touching_Grass ,

Agent provocateur. The ol bugs bunny, if you can’t beat them, join em.

CeruleanRuin ,

I’ll believe it when I see evidence of it.

CeruleanRuin ,

Fuck, if a climate protest stopped me from getting to work on time, I’d buy breakfast for the protesters.

njordomir ,

Your local vegan restaurant would probably love this. No joke.

HeartyBeast ,
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So what have you done yourself? Stolen any boats?

It’s too easy to sit and criticise other peoples protests from the comforting you gaming chair.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

So, while you’re entirely correct, someone on the team of “let’s harass the inconceivably wealthy” would probably still appreciate this action because it’s better than nothing.

It’s also possible they’re trying to get the media to cover it more, rather than cause actual property damage

AbidanYre ,

Team Orca!

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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And end up like Will Van Spronsen, who was called a terrorist and demonized by almost everyone for doing good. (Reddit would suspend your account just for mentioning him.)

The super wealthy’s propaganda tools are more powerful than ours because they control the media, and there aren’t as many people who are awake to what’s happening as you might think. I’m all for direct action like what you describe, but we still need the red paint to make people aware of what’s going on. And I promise, it does do something. What do the unlovable rich want that they can’t buy? Love and respect. (Look at fucking Elon, that pathetic insect.)

I recently read a sci-fi book called “Station Six” by an anarchist author who goes by S.J. Klapecki. Let me quote one of the characters:

He wants to live like good King Arthur, loved and cherished and appreciated by his serfs. I like throwing a wrench into that. I think it’s important. And, who knows, maybe the next set of malcontents will learn something from us. I doubt it, but there’s my optimism for ya.

You and I look at the activists pictured and think, “What was the point,” but the majority of people are still learning their ABCs of why this whole system is fucked. Sure, I’d have preferred the ship got destroyed completely, but these folks still did a brave act that has hit that sweet spot where it will get media attention without being entirely buried like a Will Van Spronsen (who, for the record, is a god damn hero and I’m not disparaging him at all).

Kecessa ,

There’s quite a difference between destroying a yatch and trying to blow up a building with people in it…

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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Not sure whose disinformation campaign you’ve been hearing, but he set fire to unoccupied buses, not “trying to blow up a building with people in it”

But I’m sure the fascists are happy someone from sh.itjust.works came along to defend them. What a shocker.

Edit: What I should have said is “exhibit A” – This is why we still need the red paint, so thank you for illustrating my point

Kecessa , (edited )

I just searched their name and looked at Wikipedia because I didn’t know who you were referring to

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_attack

Also, accusing me of using far right propaganda as a source when you post a link to a far left source of info on the subject is incredible ironic…

CeruleanRuin ,

And yet, here we are talking about it. Sometimes keeping the conversation going is in itself a win.

tinkeringidiot ,

More mandatory overtime for her staff. She’ll never know it happened unless one of her social media managers sees it on Twitter and mentions it to her.

Kerred ,

And then they buy more red spray paint on Amazon because Walmart was out .

Side note, didn’t the movie company make bank from people buying those V for Vendetta masks to protest against corporations or something? Vague memory of it

tinkeringidiot ,

Yeah, between Anonymous and Occupy Wall Street those masks were very profitable for the people being protested against.

I’m sure their brief and ultimately pointless unpopularity was well compensated for by those extra revenues.

Mamertine ,

That’s what I don’t get.

The owner of the yacht doesn’t give a shit. It’s beneath them.

Those activists just made a headache for the working class crew who run the yacht.

Good work sticking it to the man’s working class employees! /S

flow_off_a_cliff ,

They got their message on international news, and they did it targeting the super wealthy instead of blocking traffic or otherwise hindering innocent people. Frankly I don’t care if the crew has a ‘headache’ being paid to clean up some biodegradable paint, they’re just being paid for one task instead of another. What actual harm of any kind has this done? The benefit might be small but it’s nonzero unlike what most of us are doing.

BeautifulMind ,
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they did it targeting the super wealthy instead of blocking traffic or otherwise hindering innocent people

Reminds me that the point of protest is to be disruptive. Oh, you’re blocked on your way to do your job? Your job is to do your job, not to fight other workers on behalf of your employer

I don’t get the whole ‘protest should not ever inconvenience anyone, ever’ line of thinking- if I’m travelling for work and I get stuck in traffic behind a protest, I bill my time and that’s how I pass the disruption signal along to where it needs to land

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/50298697-ac1e-4f4d-b272-aaaff1e59fc8.jpeg

the_stormcrow ,

Because targeted vandalism is easier and more satisfying to animalistic urges than the long work of organizing political backing, running for office, enacting societal change

cactus ,

Mate people have been trying all that since the 70s and it didn’t achieve much

SpaceCowboy ,
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They’re creating jobs by fucking up the yacht aren’t they?

Or is it only billionaires that “create jobs” when they fuck up the entire world?

MrBusinessMan ,

This is entirely unacceptable, that is somebody’s hard earned private property and it’s never OK to vandalize what isn’t yours.

Misconduct ,

Oh there’s lots of times when it’s perfectly ok. Like this one. How many of their employees need government assistance? Fuck this rich lady and her superyacht.

Edit: it’s a SUPERyacht not just a yacht silly me

wahming ,

Hard earned…? There’s several angles you might use to condemn this, but suggesting they worked hard for their inherited fortunes is ridiculous.

MrBusinessMan ,

Somebody hard earned that money even if it wasn’t this person it was her father or grandfather

wahming ,

Ah crap, just realised it’s a troll account. Shoo troll, shoo

TinyPizza ,
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I think it's more of a parody account. I asked judge Mills Lane. He'll allow it.

DarthBueller ,

@MrBusinessMan, you silly goose! Why do you have to be so evil? Tsk tsk

Franzia ,

That’s right, private property has human rights!!

pc_admin ,

That’s simply untrue, a yacht like that is a terrible waste of humanities limited resources.

cupcakezealot ,
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Let’s make it a third time

TALL421 ,
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Uhoh we’re out of paint

CeruleanRuin ,

Manure is pretty cheap.

elscallr ,
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Yeah the people in this thread are full of it lol

Cethin ,

Also, manure is a good source of potassium nitrate…

CeruleanRuin ,

What an incendiary thought.

Pussydogger ,

Jealousy becomes vandalism?

I wonder how they feel good themselves if people from Africa came and vandalised their house and say rich people should exist

TheKarion ,

Very good point

return2ozma ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a difference between working class and a billionaire that exploits millions of workers.

Franzia ,

I believe these activists have probably had empathy for the global poor. This walmart bitch creates the global poor.

Pussydogger ,

They are free to give up their “wealthy” Spanish life and go help those “poor” people get rich.

More action less talk.

Franzia ,

The billionaires are literally the reason everyone else is poor. They use that wealth and power to keep wages stagnant and neo-colonialism and neo-slavery churning.

Pussydogger ,

Divide the wealth of the billionaire and the number of poor people and see how much they each get

Franzia ,

It’s how they use their power of capital, not the actual dollar amount. They have the decision making power above all the rest of us. They are deciding to create a deeply unfair and violent world.

zbyte64 ,
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What does Africa have to do with this, weren’t the activists from Spain? 🧐

Pussydogger ,

Comparison. These billionaire compare to average Spaniards are filthy rich.

These Spaniards are filthy rich compare the most people in African.

I doubt the action came out of “care”, more out of jealousy.

zbyte64 ,
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I doubt the action came out of “care”, more out of jealousy.

So they’re acting like billionaires?

Pussydogger ,

not sure if the billionaire are jealous or not.

The protest going around vandalising property to make their point is definitely an action from jealously.

People have vote with their money to shop at Walmart.

zbyte64 ,
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Billionaires don’t get jealous? I guess I meant greed.

Pussydogger ,

Some are, some not. Hard to judge.

Everyone expects others to give what they have away like a river flowing downstream.

zbyte64 , (edited )
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Show me a billionaire that isn’t motivated by greed. Seriously, I’ll wait.

But honestly, how is it you can know the motivations of a protestor and most other people but not whether a billionaire is greedy?

Pussydogger ,

Billionaire who don’t want attention are not going to be parading around.

People who want attention does

Macaque ,

All billionaires are ethically in the wrong.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

Not really but this one in particular is the Michael Jordan of drunk driving and I believe got away with manslaughter.

Nalivai , (edited )

Yes, really. There are no ethically sound reasons for a person to have all this money when there is so much inequality. Moreover, there is no ethical ways to accumulate all this money. If you are billionaire either you or your daddy had to do a lot of explicitly unethical shit, and in order to retain it, you have to do unethical shit, actively, right now.

Illuminostro ,

Capitalism, no matter how benign, and well intended, is literally exploiting labor from those who are lesss fortunate. And thanks to that malignant leprechaun Milton Friedman, every MBA since thinks that they’re legally bound to maximize dividends for investors instead of compensating the people who do the actual production. It’s obscene, sociopathic, and literally evil. But if Jeebus didn’t want them to rich, they wouldn’t be, right?

Illuminostro ,

Expound.

Maajmaaj ,
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How do those billionaire toes taste? Like the hope of financial freedom I’m guessing?

PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

Bigot.

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    MMNT ,

    And have their insurance buy them a new one?

    CADmonkey ,

    Sink that one too. Until such vessels are uninsurable.

    lud ,

    It would still cost them a lot.

    Insurance companies are not exactly in the charity business.

    Colour_me_triggered ,

    Stop fucking around and sink it.

    Treczoks ,

    “Stop doing that or I’ll have to cut another $ per hour from all our employees to pay for the damages!”

    MargotRobbie ,

    Here’s a personal finance tip: Don’t buy a yacht, or any boat, like, ever. If you really want one and have the money, just rent one, these thing costs a ridiculous amount of money to maintain for something that’s going to be used like once or twice a year at most.

    RIPandTERROR ,
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    Fuck yeah. They should live in constant and non-stop fear of the people they hoard from

    elscallr ,
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    “Fear”

    You really think they give a shit? About something like this? They just pay someone $200 to clean the yacht. Sink it and they just buy a new one. This isn’t anything.

    Misconduct ,

    Oh ok. That’s fair I guess if you’ve found a better way. What have you done?

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I stopped shopping at Walmart and started shopping on Amazon. By switching what billionaires I support I am going my part.

    KIM_JONG ,

    Sad thing is, Amazons profit margins on their shopping shit is razor thin. It’s AWS that is making bank, and that’s like half of the servers on the internet.

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    IHaveTwoCows ,

    Hey have you heard about the new WalMart wage decrease?

    Misconduct ,

    Ok how many unions or political organizations are you directly involved in? If the answer isn’t something above bare minimum then I’m still firmly on team fuck superyachts.

    Default_Defect ,
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    Are you the person that spray painted the yacht? If not, then you’re just talking shit and doing nothing.

    Misconduct ,

    That’s better than telling people doing anything to stop 🙃

    GladiusB ,
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    Lol you haven’t seen many rich people have you? This is definitely something they fear.

    SpiderShoeCult ,

    Then they have a weird way of showing it. They’re doing an awful lot of hoarding and exploitation for somebody within pitchfork distance.

    I honestly hope you are correct.

    kmkz_ninja ,

    The rich know there will always be people who will tell you you’re protesting wrong.

    SlikPikker ,

    They SHOULD, but this won’t accomplish that.

    Let’s think of something better.

    HiddenLayer5 ,

    Look no further than medieval French engineering!

    SlikPikker ,

    All jokes aside, and we might agree in some specifics -

    crimethinc.com/…/against-the-logic-of-the-guillot…

    Any new order that was established needs to limit the violence as much as possible. Because revolutionary violence as often as not eats the children of revolution.

    In the meantime though…

    reagansrottencorpse ,

    Good read

    lemann ,

    Wouldn’t hurt to complement it with one of their more modern techniques - large crowds using Carbon Dioxide, Water Vapor, Nitrogen and Oxygen

    Da_Boom ,
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    Time for some TrebuchetMemes?

    Did you know a trebuchet can use a counterweight to throw a 90KG projectile over 300 metres?

    YeetPics ,
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    [Everyone liked that]

    who8mydamnoreos ,

    Fire is harder to wash off

    TinyPizza ,
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    Cleanse the yacht with holy fire!

    treefrog ,

    Even harder when you spray with gasoline first.

    peopleproblems ,

    I have an idea. Destroying it probably just gets written off from insurance.

    Wash the boat with undiluted pine sol.

    zuu ,
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    So it slips out of the water. Smart.

    CeruleanRuin ,

    Literally no damage done to the boat will ever actually financially harm the bitchionaire. That’s not the goal of protest - though it’s certainly a bonus when it’s achievable.

    phar ,

    What does undiluted pinesol do?

    peopleproblems ,

    Undiluted pine sol is the smell of pine, but it is incredibly strong, and takes forever to get rid of.

    Back on reddit there was a story about some soldiers that resorted to it to “speed clean” the smell of their training facility. It’s far more effective in an enclosed space.

    Franzia ,

    They’ll sue for emotional damage or some rich person bullshit idk

    Wakmrow ,

    You’re right they shouldn’t set fire to the boat

    phillaholic ,

    Oh No. Anyway

    Illuminostro ,

    “Let them eat Taco Bell.”

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