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restingboredface ,

My God what hubris. Rush had so many chances to pause the dive or work on a redesign and ignored it. I can’t imagine the fear of being 3000+ feet below and hearing the first cracks of the hull as it starts to implode. Hope it was fast.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I hope so too. Especially for the kid that was brought along. But even if it was a second or two… knowing you’re about to die and there’s nothing you can do to stop it…

wjrii ,

At approximately 2,274 meters, the Titan sent the message, “All good here,” according to the animation.

The last communication from the submersible was sent at approximately 3,341 meters: “Dropped two wts,” meaning drop weights, according to the Coast Guard.

All communications and tracking from the submersible to Polar Prince were lost at 3,346 meters, according to the Coast Guard.

I’m assuming a lot here, but dropping weights would likely mean they were trying to ascend. They may have had just over five meters’ worth of knowing something was going wrong (whatever that means in terms of time) before the implosion.

MartianSands ,

For an emergency ascent, they’d probably have dropped more than two. They also probably wouldn’t have taken the time to type a message to the surface if it were going wrong that quickly.

It seems more likely to me that they were controlling their rare of descent. I’d expect them to lose a little buoyancy as the vessel compresses, so it seems reasonable that they’d drop the occasional weight as they descend.

wjrii ,

Fair enough. That makes a lot of sense. I have heard that the failure model for this thing likely would have been some cracking sounds, and then the implosion, but I probably shouldn’t speculate quite so hard. At any rate, the whole thing was a disaster waiting to happen, and whaddaya know, it did.

hOrni ,

I don’t think there were any cracks. Most probably it was, one second there is a submersible and everything seems fine, and the next second there is no submersible. And everything is still fine because we just got rid of a few billionaires for free, and didn’t even have to use a guillotine.

noride , (edited )

That theory doesn’t explain why they suddenly dropped ballast and attempted an ascension prior to implosion, though.

E. After doing some digging, the comments about the Titan having dropped weights and was ascending during implosion came from James Cameron. Not sure if that makes it more or less trustworthy…

icedterminal ,

Something could have gone wrong electronically or mechanically warranting a ballast drop. I have considered this to be a possibility outside of them hearing cracks and suddenly wanting to go up.

icedterminal ,

The hubris the man had was so perfectly demonstrated in his interview.

“There’s a rule you don’t do that. Well I did.”

And now he’s dead.

IphtashuFitz ,

The investigation will also examine whether there is any evidence of misconduct or criminal acts in connection with the incident

What is the legal definition of misconduct anyway?

Given that Rush seemed to willfully ignore warnings from experts and fired people unwilling to do things like sign off on the safety of the sub I think there’s definitely a case for misconduct, at the very least.

Kellamity ,

There was a really good article on this and unfortunately I can’t find it now to share

But the gist was that Titan exploited a bunch of loopholes, among other things. The paying customers on the sub were in fact ‘marine researchers’ who coincidently made a donation, and things like that

Some of the people who were at one point involved but left due to safety concerns raised the issue with OSHA (? - or whoever the more specific body was) who repeatedly failed to investigate or take any action

So for me, whether or not they are able to charge the company, the industry regulators and government bodies overseeing them need to face some questions and judgements too (though it would take a more knowledgeable person than me to know what exactly that looks like)

lemmydividebyzero ,

Let’s build something called Tit and look for the Titan, which was built to look for the Titanic…

TheTechnician27 ,
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/04da17e5-f3d4-469b-82d8-8442334118a8.png

hOrni ,

What do you mean what do we need a mattress for? Why in the hell do you think we just spent all that money on the Titan? The whole point of buying a submersible in the first place is to get the ladies nice and tipsy topside, so we can take em to a nice comfortable place below the sea, and you know… they can’t refuse. Because of the implication.

NocturnalMorning , (edited )

Narrator: Except it wasn’t ‘All good here’

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It was until it wasn’t.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

All goodn’t here.

Num10ck ,

Tweren’t

thesohoriots ,

Alex Trebek: The first category is “other than that, how was the parade Mrs. Kennedy”

Fedizen ,

still providing comedy

some_guy ,

That’s pretty funny.

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