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Samvega OP ,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism

Stochastic terrorism is political violence that has been instigated by hostile public rhetoric which is directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished by using indirect, vague, or coded language that allows the instigator to plausibly disclaim responsibility for the resulting violence.[1] A key element is the use of social media and other distributed forms of communications where the person who carries out the violence has no direct connection to the users of violent rhetoric.[2]

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This isn’t stochastic terrorism. This is just terrorism. They are trying to terrorize the Haitians into leaving Springfield:

In December, a Springfield man was sentenced to 20 years in federal jail for hate crimes after attacking eight Haitians earlier in 2023. Last year, the local Haitian church was broken into and damaged twice. Longtime Black residents of Springfield have reported being verbally abused when walking on the city’s streets, having been confused with members of the Haitian community.

Samvega OP ,

The stochastic terrorism is the wild claims infrahumanising certain groups on social media. Then someone decides to act on those claims, and the people who posted them say “I had no idea that would happen”.

Rinse and repeat until you’ve made the world worse, then die with lots of money.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Right, but we’re at the acting stage now. It’s now just straight up terrorism.

SilverCode , (edited )

members of the group pointed guns at cars and told people to “go the fuck back to Africa”

Wow, way to highlight that you are a completely ignorant douchebag

TheTechnician27 ,
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world avatar

“Charitably”, I assume because they’re massive racists that they’re referring to the West and Central African origins of Haitians as an ethnic group and not confusing where Haiti is, but Nazis still deserve to be jailed over their disgusting ideology regardless of if they know what continent Haiti is on.

whyNotSquirrel ,
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

why, it’s easy: “Not white, not Chinese then Africa!”

HappycamperNZ ,

Hope they get shot - this is literally the logic for a conceal carry.

MyOpinion , (edited )

You know what Nazis bring to your town? Garbage. I don’t know why this is difficult. The Nazi symbol should be banned from all public use and Nazis should be arrested and held as enemies of the state.

Neon ,

enemies of the state

Arresting enemies of the state?

Well, the Nazis would certainly agree with that.

SirDerpy ,

I don’t know why this is difficult.

Those pesky 1st and 4th amendments to the US Constitution. They apply to everyone, not just those you agree with.

MyOpinion ,

They do not apply to enemies of the state like the Taliban, ISIS or Nazis.

SirDerpy ,

You want to deprive citizens of their constitutionally protected rights because you disagree with them, because you’ve defined them “enemies of the state”. You’re a nationalist fascist.

Good luck with that.

killingspark ,

At some point speech becomes hate speech that actually hurts people. In Germany there are laws against that, I’m sure the US has too.

SirDerpy ,

Fortunately, feelings aren’t protected in the US. Hate speech can only be used to show intent in the commission of an actual crime.

Should’ve used the “fire in a theater” example with stochastic terrorism from a position of authority.

Why is it I need make your argument for you? Think about that one for awhile.

MyOpinion , (edited )

You go tell that to the entire generation that had to fight and die to free us of the Nazi plague. Nazis have no place in this country and are an enemy to everything we stand for. There is Zero reason we should allow them any space to speak or live with us.

DogPeePoo ,

Immigrants are the backbone and lifeblood of America.

Nazis are the opposite and offer nothing but bile and self-loathing.

Late2TheParty ,
@Late2TheParty@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, Nazis are good for kindling, right?

CosmicTurtle0 ,

Eh…I really wouldn’t want to smell all that fat.

They are good guillotine tests.

cheese_greater ,

Guillotine test dummies

HappycamperNZ ,

I think they go better as the long burn log to toss on once its already going. Moreover if you can stack a few up.

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