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2pt_perversion ,

We will end the war in Ukraine by giving Russia everything they want…

Kamala Harris said in the debate, “I believe the reason Donald Trump says this war would be over in 24 hours is because he would just give it up.” Turns out she’s 100% correct.

some_guy ,

He probably listened to at least one of the streamers that were bankrolled by Russia, so this is unsurprising.

Not_mikey ,

Fuck it I’ll take the down votes, he’s right. Ukraine is losing this war and stand no chance of winning back there lost territory, barring western countries putting troops on the ground. The longer the war goes on, the more territory the Russians gain and the more Ukraine’s manpower gets drained. The only people who stand to benefit from the war continuing is the Russians and western defense contractors.

Obviously fuck Russia for starting this needless war but you have to understand when to cut your losses and stop pouring money and lives into a losing quagmire.

NOT_RICK ,
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Let’s couch that plan, JD. It’s no good

whotookkarl ,
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Not a big surprise the vice Putin fluffer is on the side of Russia not leaving Ukraine under a peace treaty and Ukraine promising not to protect itself. All after Russia violated treaties like the Budapest memorandum uncountable times attacking Ukraine. Meanwhile Putin fluffer Sr won’t publicly state a position because he’s obviously on Russia’s side, they bankrolled his businesses when NYC banks told him to fuck off.

FlyingSquid ,
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I think they already figured it out. Russia leaves Ukraine.

almar_quigley ,

Maybe even gives Ukraine some of Russia too. And I’m not referring to crimea.

reddig33 ,

Gee, I wonder why? What an unexpected Coincidence!

/s

ohellidk ,

It’s like people are just starting to figure it out!

UnpopularCrow , (edited )

“It doesn’t join NATO, it doesn’t join some of these sort of allied institutions,” Mr. Vance said. “I think that’s ultimately what this looks like.”

Elbridge Colby, one of Trumps simps from the Pentagon had this to add:

“Senator Vance is being realistic and putting out forthrightly a realistic basis for ending the conflict,” he said, “while other people are engaged in a kind of irresponsible fantasy.”

Imagine being asked to give up a significant piece of your nations territory, while being refused any security guarantees in the future. This is after your children have been raped and stolen and your land destroyed. This is what peace looks like? Fuck off both of you. If you let nations like Russia to steal land and get away with it, they won’t stop. Of course, we know Trump and Vance are puppets of Putin so no real surprises here. After all, we know how much dictators love trump.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Elbridge Colby, one of Trumps simps from the Pentagon

I can’t stand that smug nepo baby. He’s a dollar-store Tucker Carlson whose self-confidence is completely unwarranted by his competence.

UnpopularCrow ,

^

Rhaedas ,

dollar-store Tucker Carlson

So dollar store clearance rack.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

While being attacked by a nation who promised to defend you from attacks if you gave up your nukes.

Blackout , (edited )
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Whatever makes sense™ - Vancebot, a division of Peter Thiel's scrotum.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“How long have you been in Ukraine? Ok.”

wjrii ,

“figure out what a peaceful settlement looks like,”

Per the article, followed immediately by ceding the currently occupied parts of Ukraine to Russia and Ukraine promising never to join NATO or “related” organizations. Ukraine gets a “demilitarized” zone to do what, of course, THE INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED BORDER was supposed to do.

Fucking hell. We wouldn’t ask Iran for terms like that, but a maturing democracy that is allied with us… it’s fine. After all, the west did shitty things like “offering a more appealing value proposition.” Trump is not even good at being a hegemonic power.

SeaJ ,

His plan is “give Putin everything he wants.” Real great negotiator there. /s

FelixCress ,

Of course. Putin’s shills always repeat after Putin.

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