How a Leading Chain of Psychiatric Hospitals Traps Patients

Asidonhopo , 2 hours ago

Nobody wants to promote 988 in this thread? Smdh

lolola , 3 hours ago

I encourage others to seek treatment for mental health issues if ever necessary, and I’ve heard a few success stories of people who got the help they needed from a psychiatric inpatient stay. But I’ll be honest, shit like this really worries me.

I’ve been living with depression for many years now. It terrifies me to imagine what a full-blown crisis would be like – not just because of what I might do, but also because of what the health care system might do to me.

Assman , 4 hours ago

Chain of Psychiatric Hospitals

Stop the planet I want off

metaStatic , 4 hours ago

It's a new franchise.

FlyingSquid , 4 hours ago

Not all that new. About 20 years old in fact.

einlander , 2 hours ago

en.wikipedia.org/…/Stop_the_World_–_I_Want_to_Get…

Apytele , 4 hours ago

Doesn’t shock me tbh. The “deinstitutionalization movement” was a fucking joke all they did was dump people out on the street so they could use their 0 community living skills to go get their mental Healthcare from prison instead, and now that people are getting sick of being screamed at on the street by homeless schizophrenics on drugs (not like there’s anything better for them to do) they want them locked up again so they can make health insurance companies money instead of doing literally anything to actually heal their communities. I have an entire nursing theory and set of practices just for this specific population because we’ve just completely fucked so many of them up, probably most of them permanently. And I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face but housing is the #1 driver of the American mental health crisis. They joke about “what radicalized you” and it’s 8 fucking years of working in psych hospitals even when I’m proud of the care I’m giving just watching the system as a whole is killing me. What I do should be considered ICU level psych care for that handful of people who are actually actively psychotically tweaking so why are all of the units I work mostly full of not even depressed but just understandably sad homeless people?

FlyingSquid , 4 hours ago

This is not really even about that because yes, people are being held in these places involuntarily, but a lot of people voluntarily check themselves in- Acadia even works on propaganda to get them to do it- and then can’t leave. People who want things like an evaluation for bipolar disorder or an adjustment in medication or just plain old therapy.

Apytele , 4 hours ago (edited 3 hours ago)

No that’s 100% exactly what I’m talking about because no one should be going to psych hospitals for any of those things, and the fact that we’ve not allocated the resources to treat those things in the community (which would actually be cheaper) is the entire failing of that “deinstitutionalization” movement. It was supposedly going to be a whole movement where we shifted to community care models but they never actually allocated proper funding for that so it became just another way to fuel the prison industrial complex.

I’ve never even worked a psych hospital that did proper 1:1 talk therapy on the regular. I as a nurse working a 12h shift with 6-8 patients and also being responsible for equipment checks, groups, checking on all my patients at least hourly etc am often the closest thing some of these people get to a therapist. At the absolute MOST most of those things should be being treated at a CSU which is a type of voluntary stepdown unit that usually has 1 nurse on-site continuously and that does a cursory belongings search and NO body searches. Most of them function like rehabs but do other mental health services as well as detox. I shouldn’t be being asked to strip search depressed people, but I also can’t risk one of them being dumb enough to bring a proper sharp or ligature onto my secure unit for people who genuinely can’t be trusted not to shank or garotte a bitch. Ffs one time the ER just didn’t even check at all and an actively psychotic pt rolled onto the unit with a loaded fucking gun in their bag that my tech just happened to find during a routine belongings search and I’ve found all kinds of other weapons on people. My unit is tightly controlled for a reason and most people receiving psychiatric care don’t need it and therefore should never gave to experience it.

Almost none of the people you’re describing should be setting foot on even the classier units I’ve worked, and they wouldn’t have to if proper community resources like medication management, talk therapy, and even CSUs were more available. I remember reading at one point that there was like one psychiatrists office serving like half of Montana at one point. The lack of those services (and particularly the lack of adequate insurance reimbursement for those services - those professionals still need to feed and house themselves and their families) are a very intentional component of this fucked up orphan crushing machine.

FlyingSquid , 4 hours ago

They were tricked into going there. You seem to be missing that. That isn’t legal. Most of the things in the article aren’t legal.

Apytele , 3 hours ago

Yeah. And they’re volunteering to risk something that’s at least horribly traumatic and at worst just a straight up human rights violation because they don’t have any better places to go and that’s by design.

protist , 4 hours ago

I used to work for a nonprofit psych hospital in a city where there’s also an Acadia hospital. We hired a ton of their staff who started working there well-intentioned but quickly fled after they witnessed how it was run. Patients would tell us horror stories and tell us how grateful they were they didn’t end up there. We’d see patients who discharged from there just a few days prior who were still psychotic as fuck, and we’d treat them ethically and they’d actually get better. They’d leave the Acadia hospital with basically no discharge plan, a lot of times their families weren’t even told where they’d been released to or that they’d been released at all.

FlyingSquid , 4 hours ago

Reminds me of how there were stories when I lived in L.A. of ERs dumping grandparents with dementia on skid row. People finding out their grandma was wandering around amongst the junkies in a hospital gown and one slipper.

Pfeffy , 2 hours ago

I spent a few years repairing medical equipment in halfway homes, psychiatric institutions, and nursing homes. All for low income people. I am definitely going to die before I ever end up in one of those shitholes. Literal hell on earth all of them. People screaming pointlessly for attention or pain relief into hallways populated only with jaded and underpaid Nigerian woman who can barely keep up because they are so understaffed.

FlyingSquid , 5 hours ago

This whole article is horrific. (And wasn’t paywalled to me)

It goes beyond trapping patients. We’re talking things like beating children and multiple rapes.

TheTechnician27 , 3 hours ago

The NYT operates on a limited-article basis, making it so you have maybe three articles a month before getting the boot.

If you ever need to bypass this, there’s an extension for Firefox, and additionally, there’s archive.ph or one of its sister sites like archive.vn and archive.is (they all feed into and read from the same underlying database).

als , 1 hour ago

I was in multiple psych wards in the UK as a minor and hooo boy were they not good. Most were state-run but one time there wasn’t enough beds in state-run wards so I spent 3 months in a private psych ward paid for by the NHS. This was the worst of all. There were clear signs of them taking their time to release people so they’d have enough beds full. I mean we were all there against our will anyway but they dragged it out. It was awful in lots of other ways but I’ll save that for the memoirs.

swordgeek , 5 hours ago

For-profit healthcare makes this outcome inevitable.