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themeatbridge ,

Honestly, those families of fallen soldiers can go fuck themselves. They dishonor the memory of their children that made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. They don’t get to invite Trump to wipe his ass all over the graves of soldiers. Their children deserve respect, but they deserve scorn.

stoly ,

This was my thought as well. Can you really have loved your family member if you sell them cheaply to be used as political fodder? Is that what their memory is worth to you?

This is the same level of disaffection that you saw from the pa firefighter widow who wouldn’t accept a phone call from Biden.

theuniqueone ,

Those children made " the ultimate sacrifice " to expand and maintain American imperialism and violence worldwide. Just because we hate trump there is no reason to defend the American empire and its willing enforcers.

themeatbridge ,

Ok, I’m not going to debate that with you. I don’t know these kids, their motivations, their missions, or how they lived and died. I’m talking about every body laid to rest in Arlington, and far too many that still lay where they fell, all of the soldiers, living and dead, are deserving of a certain modicum of reapect. They deserve to not be used as props in a campaign photo. Their families deserve to not see their tombstones used as an arm rest in a photo op.

raynethackery ,

I would be horrified if someone asked to visit my parents’ grave for a photo op. I can barely go there without breaking down. My family’s grief is private.

Maggoty ,

Oh yes all those soldiers from, (checks notes), fighting the Nazis and Japanese.

Yeah them. Horrible people, the absolute worst amiright?

TallonMetroid ,
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Oh, it’s even worse than that. My understanding is that the families that invited him are specifically families of soldiers who died during the pullout from Afghanistan. Y’know, the pullout that Trump announced out of the blue with zero prep work in the last year of his presidency and dumped on Biden’s lap. They are celebrating the man directly responsible for their kids’ deaths.

N0body ,

When the next J6 certification comes, Biden should issue an emergency order suspending posse comitatus and let the Army secure the Capitol. Teach those Trump thugs some respect.

yeather ,

You mean give them something to latch onto if they win or lose? If Kamala wins don’t expect just Jan 6 to be a bad date, Nov 9, Jan 20-21, etc etc. if they win, they get to point at this “egregious overstep” and do more asshatery.

N0body ,

You obviously wouldn’t do it if Trump wins. Democrats aren’t going to storm the Capitol.

yeather ,

After, retribution hits against dems and biden for overstepping their power.

CileTheSane ,
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Well as long as it’s an “official act” it’s not illegal.

yeather ,

We both know that means jack.

Maggoty ,

You don’t need it. D.C. is an exception to Posse Comitatus. What’s likely is the Guard will be activated but not on site. So they’ll be about 30 minutes away if the police are getting overrun again. But I would be very surprised if the Metro and Capitol Police don’t do an all hands day and even more surprised if a crowd got through that. It would almost certainly require a use of force by the crowd that rises to armed insurrection anyway. At which point the NG gets the go ahead and either the 82nd or 101st (whoever has the alert brigade that month) gets a mass recall text. They probably wouldn’t deploy but those options have to start lining up early to be ready in case some large organized militia actually turns it into a fight.

The chances of things getting that far are statistically indescribable but that’s the reaction chain.

ocassionallyaduck ,

The US Army published a measured response to the implicated poor behavior of an on duty servicewoman at ANC.

The Army would very much object to this being categorized as “against” Trump. Rather in defense of their service members and their correct actions.

The Army is careful not to overextend itself on political rhetoric and invite too much politics directly.

foggy ,

I’m so glad he pissed off the army before trying to stage his second coup.

Good luck asshat.

homesweethomeMrL ,

He pissed off the 60% of the army who already knew what a disgusting failure of a human he is.

qooqie ,

I don’t really have much hope for this. People have short memories

CileTheSane ,
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But Trump can’t go a day without showing his ass for attention. Without rose colored glasses dismissing the things he does he will remind them consistently how much he doesn’t care about soldiers.

PugJesus ,

The US military is aggressively non-political. Don’t count on them to do anything as long as the civilian institutions do nothing.

Telodzrum ,

Which kinda sucks, but it’s actually a good thing.

Maggoty ,

That’s not the point. The Military is no longer a tool he could use. Staying neutral unless things get really bad is a good thing. He’s already tried to use the military against protestors. (And the military told him to pound sand)

Beaver ,
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He’s gonna try having the police arrest the military

Maggoty ,

I’ll get the popcorn, you get the butter sauce?

ech ,

Lol. Dude most likely to attempt a coup in the US just pissed off the armed forces. You love to see it.

chickenf622 ,

The army stated that they consider the matter closed according tovthe article. I doubt any legal action will come from this.

stoly ,

That’s not the point. Lots of people now see how tone deaf the entire campaign is.

homesweethomeMrL ,

I wish I could believe that.

It’s a cult though.

stoly ,

It turns out that the police will absolutely rise up but the military is all about protecting and following the chain of command. I used to think as you do but I’ve since seen so many times when they have expelled the crazies. There’s no union protecting bad soldiers from consequences.

atocci ,

I’m pretty sure they’re saying his followers are a cult, not the Army. His followers will easily take the word of him and his campaign over the Army and Arlington National Cemetery.

stoly ,

I’ve reread the comment a few times and still think that they were talking about the army. I do see what you mean though.

socsa ,

Well, at least the brass at Joint Base Henderson Hall, one of the cushiest appointments in the service, located in one of the bluest zip codes in the US.

freebee ,

How often do cults end in mass suicide?

charade_you_are ,

One cult too few so far

iAmTheTot ,

This event will change exactly 0 people’s minds at the ballot box.

stoly ,

You say that yet everyone except the “base” is fleeing. Trump is limited to down ballot voters and whackadoos.

iAmTheTot ,

Look, come election day, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. I’m just not seeing any conservatives “fleeing”.

stoly ,

It’s all over the news. Republicans coming out in support of Harris, etc.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

It’s hard to know, but my feeling is that this is not a good look for trump.

iAmTheTot ,

Audio leaked of him admitting he sexual assaults women because he feels he’s entitled to, and he won the presidency. The “look” of anything Trump does is irrelevant.

The one true thing he has ever said was that he could shoot someone on fifth ave and not lose any support.

ripcord ,
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Since when has that ever mattered?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I bet it will change more than 0.

Like 5.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

“For a despicable individual to physically prevent President Trump’s team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the hollowed [sic] grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. Whoever this individual is spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces, and they are disrespecting everyone who paid the price for defending our country,” LaCivita continued.

This is vile.

floofloof ,

It’s grammatically sickening.

iAmTheTot ,

I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore. Just gotta say my piece at the ballot box and hope for the best

Samvega ,

I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore.

Yup. There’s no point caring, he’s a broken record of hatred. Just move on.

socsa ,

Normalization of this shit is how the fascists get a foothold. In this very story we see that the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash. The absolute minimum thing you can do is stay angry. Enjoy passive opposition while it is still an option.

iAmTheTot ,

Guess I just can’t handle the minimum, then. My mental health is shot man, I need a break.

chiliedogg ,

I’m actually impressed a former president currently running for reelection managed to fuck up pandering to the military so bad the Army called him out for it.

zaph ,

Still waiting for team trump to release the video that defends them lmfao

Diddlydee ,

‘No video has been released yet’ to the surprise of no one.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung

This fuckin’ guy. Keep digging up Steve.

haunte ,

I know it’s his job to spin negatives into positives and attack Trumps opponents, but he just comes off as a particularly nasty internet troll every time he opens his mouth. Goebbels by way of 4chan.

Corvidae , (edited )

I’m struck by the similarities to Trump’s bible photo incident: Donald Trump photo op at St. John’s Church - Wikipedia

Edit: Link fixed, thanks to apfelwoiSchoppen

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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Fixed link: …wikipedia.org/…/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._Joh…

themeatbridge ,

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    dupe comment probably from internet issue or something just letting u know

    themeatbridge ,

    Many thanks

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