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RedditWanderer ,

Can’t put my finger on it, but I feel we have a word for fatally shooting people.

I guess we’re avoiding the word gun in titles now…

JonsJava OP ,
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You unable to see the word “shoot” in the title? I doubt it was a blow dart…erm… oh wait. That’s a gun too!

I don’t think it was a crossbow, or long bow, or a water…damn it. Keep coming back to “gun”.

If you can’t discern that it’s a gun from the title, there’s not much to do.

Kaboom ,

A bow isn’t a gun

JonsJava OP ,
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I didn’t say it was.

skeezix ,

What term would you use that’s more accurate than ‘fatally shoots’? The term ‘murdered’ would simply obfuscate the method of killing.

Kaboom ,

Why does the tool matter? Could easily do it with a knife

DmMacniel ,
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Defending against a knife is a tad “easier” than being peng’d to death. Also there is that second amendment those Americans really really love. I don’t see any amendment regarding knives.

zaph ,

What else can you fatally shoot someone with if the title is trying to avoid blaming guns?

catloaf ,

A syringe?

zaph ,

You inject with a syringe but maybe their mind went there since that’s referred to as a shot. I guess they could also assume someone forced them to drink 1.5oz of liquor and died from it. Maybe it’s because I’m American but when I hear “fatally shot” only one instrument comes to mind.

h3mlocke ,

Oh look a redditor.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

TIL reddit is a slur.

DmMacniel ,
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no it isn’t? Spez though, now thats a slur.

RedditWanderer ,

I’m not a redditor lol. It says reddit wanderer, as I have been wandering since the day RIF stopped working. I have not returned to reddit. Nice try with the ad hominem though

foggy ,

Grief is a hell of a drug.

TheTechnician27 ,
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jimmydoreisalefty ,
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We (Americans) will never give up our guns, especially if you are working class.

We should continue to help fund to uphold our 2A rights.

Gun safety and training should be an option for everyone.

Duamerthrax ,

Do you really think Gun Safety Training would have prevented this one?

TheTechnician27 ,
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Everyone who makes this absurd argument knows it won’t. They just want to keep their stupid toys and don’t care about the lives it costs, so they muddy the waters to delay actual action on preventing these needless deaths.

  • “Just arm and train everyone bro [so we can keep being the problem].”
  • “Just use ‘clean coal’ bro [so we can keep making billions destroying the climate].”
  • “Just make more plastic recycling plants bro [so we can keep littering the environment with mountain ranges’ worth of single-use trash]”.
  • “Just use EVs bro [so we don’t have to reevaluate how fundamentally terrible car-centrism is]”.

Every time there’s a systemic problem in the US, someone shows up to make a proposal that puts a very small band-aid on the problem at best while making it much more deeply entrenched in the long-term and consequently more of a problem (in the above examples, we have respectively more guns and gun culture, more investment put into generating energy via coal, more infrastructure for plastic, and more car infrastructure). Basically, “I don’t want my guns taken away ever, so the solution I’m going to come up with is that everyone has them and so the actually effective solution of restricting them becomes literally impossible.” Their solution doesn’t just not work; it actively causes more deaths while serving their own self-interest.

DmMacniel ,
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What did the 2A solve in the modern days though? Where is that need for a Militia?

partial_accumen ,

DeLucia, Jr., who worked as a local auto mechanic, was also a hoarder and the house was packed with tools and other car repair items, Fitzpatrick added.

At the extreme, could this be a “failure to launch” child, now 57 years old, that continued to live at home being provided for by mom unable or or unwilling to provide for themselves, and finally was being forced to provide for themselves at age? Did the family make overtures to get the man mental help for decades only to be rebuffed by mom or the murderer? Now that mom was gone, the siblings were forced to deal with it?

The article doesn’t contain enough information to draw conclusions.

JonsJava OP ,
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Yeah, the article is fairly threadbare. You bring up some good questions, too.

Sweetpeaches69 ,

The ol’ Chris Chan special, ladies and gentlemen. How does this keep happening?

don ,

How does this keep happening?

It keeps happening because parenting can get legislated only so much. Inept and ineffective parenting isn’t exactly illegal if the child is relatively unharmed.

Feathercrown ,

He should’ve started with himself

JonsJava OP ,
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In before someone reports this - the person DID kill themselves, therefore this comment isn’t advocating self-harm, so much as “I wish the harm had ONLY been to themselves”

Feathercrown ,

Yes, thank you

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