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N0body ,

I feel dirty saying good things about Sarah Palin, but she was brought on to fire up the base and did just that. Vance has managed to alienate the base. I don’t think the incels even like him at this point.

Quill7513 ,

Yeah people forget how long people looked favorably at Palin. The response to Vance meanwhile was an immediate and visceral “no thank you”

Vittelius , (edited )

Of course the incels don’t like him. He argues that childless people should pay higher taxes. How did anyone think that would go over with the “never even had sex” constituency?

Yeller_king ,

I think the incel crowd generally want to strip women of their rights because they see women’s liberty as a main reason they can’t get laid.

So, I’d imagine the childless cat women thing could hit with them because they’d be like “yeah, women should stop being so up-tight and have my babies!”

Or something like that.

Bennettiquette ,

yeah, single women with no kids are childless cat ladies, but single men with no kids are just victims of the uncompromising selfishness of childless cat ladies. sounds about right.

barsquid ,

Incels would agree to pay more money if it harms women. All incels hate each other, men who aren’t incels, themselves, and women. That’s in ascending order. They are full of hate.

Vittelius ,

Yes they would. And yes they do. And yes they are

BUT…

Incels also hate the cruel world that made them and the politicians upholding it. The problem with women isn’t, according to incel ideology, that they refuse to pick a partner. It’s that they pick the wrong partners. That’s where the dreaded “nice guy” comes from.

So according to incels this doesn’t harm women enough but rather creates a tax on “normal men” for being “normal”. (And then they turn around and call themselves degenerates because their ideology isn’t the most consistent)

Also if you are in these communities for long enough, then it becomes part of your identity. That’s how we get stuff like wizardchan. (People who believe that still being an incel at 30 makes you a wizard). And this is an attack on that from the outside.

collapse_already ,

The dumb thing is: they already do. I get a deduction for my kid.

I am sure the calculus had nothing to do with what the incels want - it’s not like they are going to change their vote.

Vittelius ,

Sure, but you get rewarded, they would get punished. The outcome might be the same, but for a ideology built on grievances, the vibes matter

rustydrd ,
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Considering that Vance’s biggest accomplishment so far is writing a best-selling book, in which he cosplays as a poor person while trashing rural Americans, this about checks out.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Do you think he wrote that book though?

Artyom ,

Sarah Palin was like a dog that peed on themselves because they’re an idiot. Vance is like a dog that bites their owner because they’re an idiot. Sure, Palin was dumb, but Vance is a real threat to all Americans.

cybervseas ,

Don’t tell Kristi Noem. I bet she still keeps her favorite gravel pit in great condition, just in case.

RestrictedAccount ,

Palin was a joke because John McCain was at the top of the ticket.

If it was she was second to Trump and being groomed by the Heritage Foundation and their Project 2025, she would be scary too.

Arbiter ,

Palin was at-least somewhat entertaining in her madness.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

She also came across as ditzy, not creepily malicious.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Vance 100% knows what he’s doing. He accepted that he had to sell his soul to become a successful politician.

FlyingSquid ,
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I don’t know about that… but then I made sure to read about her past as mayor of Wasilla and before that. She is incredibly malicious and petty and vindictive.

EarthShipTechIntern ,

Palin at least gave grist for porn (nalin’ Palin). Furniture porn was hilarious before Vance, is still funnier without humans.

chronicledmonocle ,

That’s impressive.

NegativeInf ,

Most impressive.

MagicShel ,

JD-Wan has taught you well.

iltoroargento ,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I don’t like this comparison lol

MagicShel ,

Yeah, but the cadence is perfect. shrug

iltoroargento ,
@iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Haha the sacrifices we make

suction ,
rsuri ,

So you’re saying he’s less non-unpopular

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, yeah, I would be fine with leaving Palin alone in a room with my furniture.

lemmus ,
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He can see useless postmenopausal women from his house.

nkat2112 ,
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Brilliant response!

some_guy ,

That’s gotta sting.

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