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TwinkleToes ,
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Capital punishment, by other means

Burn_The_Right ,

Conservatism is a plague of death and should be eradicated from modern civilization.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Texan: “well I guess they shouldn’t have broken the law then, right?”

skozzii ,

Texas sounds like a dumpster.

daemoz ,

They call it the 1 star state for a reason. -guy from Houston

FollyDolly ,
@FollyDolly@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, another day, another horror done deliberately and maliciously by my government. Great. I hope everyone of those monsters that enabled this to happen die a horrible heat related death.

BruceTwarzen ,

They make vacation on their air conditioned yachts

FollyDolly ,
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Maybe the orcas will sink a few for us.

Bluefalcon ,

newsweek.com/workers-die-texas-heat-greg-abbotts-…

nbcnews.com/…/construction-worker-accused-drugs-d…

Texas lets its workers to die without water. They have zero problems letting their prisoners to be cooked alive.

SlothMama ,

This is criminal, but I guess it’s okay because the 13th amendment says prisoners are property so they don’t have to worry about their health, safety and rights.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

The TDCJ denies that there have been any deaths caused by heat since 2012, insisting that fatalities during the summer months can be explained by inmates’ underlying medical conditions.

Right, just like Covid never killed anyone either.

Voroxpete ,

Turns out every single one of those inmates had a congenital heart defect. What are the odds?

steel_nomad ,

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    msage ,

    Fuck off and don’t return until you get real.

    steel_nomad ,

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    Tagger ,

    You seem lovely …

    Myxomatosis ,

    “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” - Gandhi

    SuckMyWang ,

    A criminal is basically someone who wronged or oppressed someone else. I wouldn’t consider them vulnerable. Still a shitty way to treat prisoners

    lolcatnip ,

    A prisoner is not necessarily a criminal, and a criminal has not necessarily hurt anyone. But people who are completely at the mercy of some sadistic prison guards are vulnerable as hell.

    SaltySalamander ,

    Pray you're never unjustly locked away.

    catloaf ,

    Tell that to people jailed for weed.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Ghandi was pretty fucked up, and we probably shouldn’t be quoting the guy.

    steel_nomad ,

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    msage ,

    Yeah, like the nukes

    FlyingSquid ,
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    By design.

    tate ,
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    The cruelty is a feature, not a bug.

    reddig33 ,

    As a Texan — please tell me what I can do to try to change this? I’m already voting. Is there a legal non profit I can donate to that is suing to change this?

    FundMECFSResearch ,

    Slightly related, but mailing prisoners lwould be great. Even if one correspence with one prisoner you send once a couple months, it really improves the mental health of people in prison for a long time, most often family and friends have forgotten about/abandoned them, and having someone on the outside to occasionally talk to can be such a relief.

    31337 ,

    I don’t know anything about them, but found these that you can donate and volunteer for: www.tpcadvocates.orgtifa.orgwww.texasjailproject.org

    Donating to and canvassing for politicians that would change this could also help.

    Supporting good journalism can also help. I really like the Texas Observer.

    reddig33 ,

    Thank you!

    JovialMicrobial ,

    civilrights.justice.gov

    This is where you can report the prisons that are cooking people alive. They might already be aware of it since it hit the news though. Or you can report Texas for any of other civil rights violations they’ve been committing recently. It might not accomplish much, but they at least deserve to be investigated for their disturbing activity.

    Also, I feel like people in general should be aware that government website exists. I didn’t know about it until just now. Knowledge is power and all that.

    Yawweee877h444 ,

    Cruel and unusual punishment.

    lolcatnip ,

    Ah but the Supreme Court ruled that punishment is only forbidden if it’s cruel and unusual, and it’s not unusual if it happens all the time. Checkmate, atheists.

    HappycamperNZ ,

    What about weird punishment?

    SlothMama ,

    Ah so the workaround is that as long as cruel punishment is normalized, it’s always acceptable. You can do something unethical today, and as long as people let you get away with it, it’s completely moral.

    Thanks America!

    Cosmonauticus ,

    Despite what ppl tell you, prisoners are ppl. Treating murders, rapists, thieves, etc worse than they did their victims is not justice

    mozz ,
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    One of the dead guys was sentenced for unlawful possession of a firearm. Not that he necessarily did anything with it; he just had it.

    Apytele , (edited )

    We had a patient in acute psychosis arrive on the unit with a gun in their bag. Like, so psychotic they were saying they were seeing demons and were interacting with those demons more than they were able to interact with us. The ED had metal detectors that should have caught it and had them down there for 8 hours with that bag in the room with them. They had all the American hospital bedside essentials, call bell, pitcher, gun, and TV remote! The ED was really lucky they didn’t get someone shot.

    They were willing to take some Haldol and got pretty lucid pretty quickly, and when the cops showed up to collect the firearm they were able to at least give a statement regarding its lack of registration (I don’t remember exactly but I do remember thinking it sounded… less than completely factual). They got charged with the same thing though iirc. I think they probably knew more about the legality of their obtaining a gun than they were letting on, but that also doesn’t discount the role of psychosis in this; the paranoia alone could’ve caused them to feel even illicitly obtaining a gun was necessary.

    None of these things would even remotely justify boiling someone alive.

    mozz ,
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    On the front page earlier today was an account of somebody who carried a gun; in two separate instances, people from his neighborhood ambushed him and shot him (and in one instance it was verified on security footage that he defended himself with it after he’d been shot, and would have been killed without having the gun on him). In both cases he got charged with unlawful possession and imprisoned for the gun that saved his life.

    SteveFromMySpace ,

    They did a wellness check and lied over the phone saying he was fine when he’d been dead for two days. what the fuck is going on in Texas?

    Allonzee ,

    “conservatism”

    Agent641 ,

    “Uhh his condition is… stable.”

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Texas is going to Texas. It’s always been a backwards, shitty state.

    yeahiknow3 ,

    Violent criminals are a fairly small fraction of total inmates, and a whopping 76% of the Texas jail population hasn’t even been convicted of a crime.

    Also, Texas loves rapists and most of them aren’t in prison anyway. Not to mention Abbott just pardoned that convicted homicidal murderer.

    Emerald ,

    Abbott just pardoned that convicted homicidal murderer.

    Looked that up and wow thats crazy. Man texted all his racist friends about wanting to kill black people in the morning. Then he ran his car into a crowd of people. Someone walks up to him with a gun (i wonder why?) and he kills him.

    Crisps ,

    This is only local jails, which makes sense as people are waiting trial then move on to long term prison.

    31337 ,

    In my local county (in Texas), there was a guy in jail for 5 years without trial (I think he’s going in 6 years without trial, but a go-fund-me paid his bail last year), and 2 years in jail without trial is not uncommon.

    Crisps ,

    I agree. The right to a speedy trial not being observed is an issue.

    C126 ,

    People just can’t imagine this treatment ever happening to themselves.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    It actually might be justice, depending on their crimes… But I agree with treating prisoners well because countless prisoners don’t deserve anything remotely this bad. There are even a fair few innocent people in this broken system of ours.

    BruceTwarzen ,

    Some of them even smoked weed or never did anything at all

    Samvega OP ,

    At Coffield, inmates were being forced to spend up to six hours in the exercise yard, known as the day room. The space is designed to provide respite for prisoners outside their cells, but has become a heat trap with no AC and no access to water.

    Robertson’s inquiries suggest that Wilson had spent up to five hours in the day room immediately before he collapsed in his cell. A TDCJ spokesperson declined to comment on Wilson’s death, saying the department “doesn’t comment on pending litigation”.

    […]

    Hanby wrote the letter from Coffield, where Wilson died. He described the conditions as “torture by heat – Texas is killing people every year who haven’t been sentenced to death”.

    The prisoner was being housed in “a tiny cell with sheet metal on the door for 24 hours a day”. He has high blood pressure and is fearful that he may not make it.

    “If I don’t survive this summer, TDCJ will use their favorite excuse and claim that I died of a heart attack,” he wrote. “That will be a lie. It will be the heat that claims me, and if not me, then so many others like me.”

    Diplomjodler3 ,

    Great country you guys have there.

    militaryintelligence ,

    It’s a state. Don’t put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby

    Diplomjodler3 ,

    The entire US “justice” system is an utter disgrace.

    jjjalljs ,

    the criminal justice system is two of those things- criminal, and a system.

    lolcatnip ,

    We know. All of us who aren’t children know. But a lot of people here like it the way it is, unfortunately.

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