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givesomefucks ,

AIPAC is not on America’s side…

Harris has spoken at their conference multiple times, and I really hope recent events have changed her mind, but we can’t stop pressuring her and the party at large to do the right thing and stop allying with genocidal religious extremists.

nkat2112 ,
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Thank you - you are so right.

alcoholicorn ,

You’re misunderstanding, America is not on your side.

The military-industrial complex, which AIPAC is a manifestation of, is more American than you or me.

octopus_ink ,

The military-industrial complex, which AIPAC is a manifestation of, is more American than you or me.

Eisenhower tried to warn us, but nobody (or not enough people) listened.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Maybe Eisenhower should have listened to himself and, while we’re at it, allied with Castro and Ho Chi Minh when they asked.

Buelldozer ,
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Harris has spoken at their conference multiple times

Every American President, most of the VPs, and nearly every Leader of both the House and Senate have spoken at their conference for the last 30 years.

sunzu ,

Yes... Genocide will continue, what are y'all gonna about it peasants lol

Erasmus ,
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She got beat by a guy who was bankrolled by Israelis and billionaire Republicans.

eldavi ,

it feels like money can do anything.

AshMan85 ,

yup, fascism

sigmaklimgrindset ,

Thank you, Citizens United :)

Viking_Hippie ,

She didn’t get beat. AIPAC and Republican billionaires bought her seat for that turd Bell.

Phegan ,

AIPAC is buying our politicians. We should be outraged

joeynotjoe ,
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Fuck… this is depressing.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Yep. What do you even do? Boycott the AIPAC stooge? Surprise, the Republican is also one!

sunzu ,

We are cornered by these clown.

They must be treated as a hostile foreign agent.

They need to register and they must be denied tax exempt status.

These parasites are enemies who get treated like allies. WTF clown time line do we live in where senior alliance partner is the bottom bitch and patariots accept that shit as normal lol

🤡

ashok36 ,

On one hand, yes. On the other hand, it’s an expected outcome when moderate Republicans are driven from their party and seek refuge in the next closest party, the dems. The Democrat party will tack right wards a bit for the next few years just because the voters flocking to them now are by nature more conservative. If and when Maga dies or the republican party splinters, those more conservative people will leave the dems and the party will be pulled leftward again by the remaining members.

circuscritic , (edited )

The mythical refuge GOP moderates do not exist in any real significant numbers, but even if that wasn’t the case, they aren’t the factor driving the Democrats to the right. That’s a product of 50 years of neoliberalism and the DNC being owned by their donor class.

Once you understand that, you can fit all of the other contributing factors under those two umbrellas, such as how Democratic administrations have refused to provide any real legislative solutions to the judicial branch’s removal of union’s ability to accumulate and retain real political power.

FlyingSquid ,
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Unfortunately, a lot of people, myself included, saw that coming.

Viking_Hippie ,

FUCK! AIPAC buying another seat from under one of the few politicians in Washington who truly cares more about people than money.

FUCK AIPAC and the genocidal apartheid regime they rode in on! 🖕🖕🖕

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crusa187 ,

Yet another prime example of why we must get money out of politics to preserve democracy. End the legalized bribes.

Jericho_One ,

Alternative title:

Voters who actually vote at the ballot support Israel while not supporting Netanyahu and support Palestinians while not supporting the homicidal death cult known as Hamas

¯_(ツ)_/¯

nondescripthandle ,

Bold calling the just one side a death cult when Israel has a protocol on when and how to kill their own soldiers and citizens.

Jericho_One ,

It’s even more bold calling the homicidal death cult Hamas “one side”. It’s almost as if you are equating an entire people to a terrorist organization, which I very much disagree with.

Hamas is a homicidal death cult, and they should not only be intolerated by modern society, they should probably be eradicated, as they openly desire to eradicate everything that modern society values: life, freedom, equality, equity, and the pursuit of happiness. They want all of that destroyed, and their religulous extremism to be in control. That is why they use Palestinians as literal human shields as they wage their homicidal war on modern society.

And I weep for those human shields that Hamas has gotten killed. And I weep for the Israelis whose families were murdered on October 7th.

But letting Hamas exist only opens up more opportunities for Hamas to kill more human shields and more innocent Israelis.

Not_mikey ,

This idea that Hamas is the only problem and they just need to be “eliminated” is so short sighted and shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation. Do you really think that if Israel kills every member of Hamas, Israel can just leave and Gaza will be free and never attack Israel, because that is pure fantasy.

Hamas is a symptom of the underlying issues not the cause. The cause is cycles of assymetric violence, deprivation, and dispossession caused by Israel. Until those issues are solved there will always be orphans of the last conflict with no hope for a better future willing to commit acts of violence against the state they blame for there horrid conditions. There will also always be some organization, if not Hamas then possibly something worse (Islamic jihad), to direct and amplify that anger.

This also assumes Hamas can be eliminated, which is a big assumption. They’ve already started doing guerilla attacks in the previously “cleared” north. Support for Hamas has gone up since the war started and you can’t kill a political movement with bombs, the u.s. learned that with Afghanistan. The only way is to remove the supporters of that movement, ethnic cleansing, which is Israels true endgame, because they know as soon as Hamas is eliminated another organization will just take its place.

Jericho_One ,

The history of Hamas could be thought of to start in August of 1988, when they issued the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

In this covenant, they state:

“The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.” (Article 6)

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” (Preamble)

“The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.” (Article 11)

“Palestine is an Islamic land… Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.” (Article 13)

“The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews’ usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.” (Article 15)

“Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: ‘Hail to Jihad!’. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah’s victory comes about.” (Article 33)

“[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement… Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam… There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.” (Article 13)

“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.” (Article 7)

“The enemies have been scheming for a long time … and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media… With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe… They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about… With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests… They stood behind World War I … and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains… There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.” (Article 22)

“Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’.” (Article 32)

“The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism… Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.” (Article 32)

I don’t read any of that and think that there’s any way to coexist with Hamas, and if you do, you should seriously reread their stated goals and think again.

Not_mikey ,

This isn’t people voting against her for not being pro-israel. AIPAC doesn’t run attack ads based off that because they know most people don’t care and half of those who do care are on the other side. Most of there money and advertising goes to emphasizing other faults with the candidate that people do care about, for Bowman and Bush this time it was about not voting for the infrastructure bill with no context as to why. This isn’t a reflection of a silent majority of Israel support, it’s a reflection of what money can do in politics.

Jericho_One ,

Idk, there’s some plausibility to that, but it could also be quite a bit of both.

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