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sfxrlz ,

History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

Unlocalhost ,

Please don’t forget to VOTE!

Carrick1973 ,

He’s such an asshole and it’s nice to see people finally starting to realize it. He’s had sycophants around him his entire life and doesn’t have the faintest clue what normal is.

ampedwolfman ,

Hear me out, because I might be getting delusional here. There’s been plenty of evidence that he is a Russian asset. There is also rampant shit spewing out of his mouth at every turn about how the system is rigged etc. and that his people should get ready for a civil war when he loses blah blah.

Is it impossible to think that this is Russia’s endgame? Fuck having a puppet in office if he could get a number of people to revolt and take to the streets. This is assuming the number of brainwashed idiots is high enough to do more than Jan 6.

Thoughts?

explodicle ,

I don’t think he has enough brainwashed idiots for a revolt to succeed. Russia would be better off if Trump wins, because he can immediately stop helping Ukraine.

dejected_warp_core , (edited )

It’s plausible, but there are many ways to explain the status quo. And maybe all those are in play at once?

Russia would absolutely use and abuse any US political puppet they can get their hands on. After all, there’s no point in getting into a shooting war with another nuclear power^1^. History has also shown that the USA united and moving in one direction at once is a force to be reckoned with. From Russia’s perspective, it’s way more economical to have your adversaries rip themselves apart for you. As the USA has had some pretty deep divisions since the Civil War, we are a clear target for this kind of strategy; we are already primed to disagree on things. The only real work to do is escalate the matter, and politics is a great lever for that. But I’ll assert that there’s no endgame necessary for this strategy: all they have to do is keep fueling chaos, keep the electorate divided, and keep everyone arguing while ignoring any common ground. From there, continued governmental dysfunction keeps us from being a bigger economical or political threat to others in the meantime.

That said, it’s all conjecture. Let me take a less conspiratorial look for a second.

At the same time, it’s cold comfort that some invisible hand is fomenting unrest and causing our biggest problems, rather than it being an inherently American dysfunction; classic self-coping denial. A bit like blaming your partner for why the relationship is in shambles, when everyone really needs to go to therapy and work on some root problems. Perhaps those causes are intractable, but as far as I can tell, nobody’s working that out and focusing a lot of energy on wedge topics (symptoms, grievances) instead.

Edit: I am in no way implying that we need to validate all the obvious bad takes from the right wing. Far from it; call that shit out. Instead, I think it’s crucial to look to how/why those takes get traction and focus there instead.

^1^ - proxy wars are weirdly okay, and have been for a long time. I’m still trying to figure that one out.

Treczoks ,

Just like he turned orange?

prime_number_314159 ,

New Jersey has merely adopted the orange. He was born in it, molded by it.

barsquid ,

Later today Dean Browning plans to issue a statement of support from Blacks for Trump HQ.

houndeyes ,
@houndeyes@toast.ooo avatar

Turning Black?

Is that like, Turning Japaneesuh♫ ?

sik0fewl ,

I really think so.

houndeyes ,
@houndeyes@toast.ooo avatar

I really think so.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/ybvGVgjRfNEAAAAC/mr-miyagi-karate-kid.gif

uebquauntbez ,

It seems DJT turned braindead and that long time before he was shot at.

Furbag , (edited )

This interview was stunning. He whinged and moaned the whole time about being made to wait, technical issues, other news networks, and not having his ass kissed constantly by the hosts. He did not substantially answer even one single question, and used every opportunity to speak to go off the rails on immigrants and spew lies so blatantly false that the hosts could fact check him on the spot. No Donald, innocent people don’t need pardons. No Donald, there is no such thing as a post-birth abortion. Holy Christ I cannot believe how absolutely fucking retarded Trump really is.

My favorite part was when he talked about how Kamala Harris is the worst vice president of all time and did a terrible job, but then shoved JD Vance under the bus and said that VP picks are just ceremonial and that they do nothing. Like, bro, which is it?

Drunemeton ,
@Drunemeton@lemmy.world avatar

He came out swinging.

He wasn’t there to win black votes or answer questions. He was there to shore up his base. He was there to get the media attention back on himself and away from others.

It seems to have worked.

captainlezbian ,

What a fucking weirdo. Almost as strange as that couch fucker Vance. Now that’s a guy we can talk about for days. Strange strange man, I hear his kids are 1/3 couch.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

John Oliver said it best … “When you find change in a couch it’s because JD left a tip.”

captainlezbian ,

I hope my leather couch is too kinky for his tastes

whostosay ,

The enemy is weak and strong, fascism 101

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Look, I’m usually the first guy to tell you that the r-word is unnecessary.

But calling Trump a “weirdo” has left the party in shambles for some reason, it’s high time we called the man a retard, especially after this charade.

Maybe we start talking in their terms more, since everything is projection with them. Oh, you love that billionaire? What a cuck. Oh, you think post-birth abortion exists? Dumb retard. Oh, you won’t debate Harris? Fucking pussy’s afraid to debate a girl!

kerrypacker ,

Yeah being a smarmy cunt isn’t going to help her win and that’s why she won’t. And on behalf of the world that fucking sucks.

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Harris should maintain a professional demeanor since she’s running for office.

We on the other hand can up the ante.

kerrypacker ,

Absolutely, he’s a piece of shit and deserves to be called out. But every video I’ve seen of her comes off as condescending and arrogant, very similar to H Clinton, and not at all like Obama (for example) or even W. It’s all so polarising and I don’t get it.

Trae ,

That sounds like a really long way to say she’s being uppity…

kerrypacker ,

This is why your side will lose. Nothing I said there indicated that, I gave specific examples which go against what you have just insulted me with. You’re stuck in an echo chamber and anybody who isn’t drinking your koolaid gets labelled.

Trae ,

What side would that be? I’ve voted independent every election I’ve voted.

It’s your issue if your dog whistle is deafening and you’re so quick to label conversations as “your side vs mine”.

People don’t have to be democrats to abhor readily apparent bigotry.

kerrypacker ,

Are you calling me racist or sexist? Both would be so wrong for reasons you really should understand from my posts. And I’m Australian so I don’t have a dog in this fight but either candidate would be unacceptable here and shithouse for the world.

grte ,

The weird thing works because it elicits them to defend themselves and, because their beliefs are in fact weird as hell, they do so in the most awkward ways. Turning off normies who might have some reactionary sympathy but are on the fence. Calling them slurs or just mean things isn’t going to work in the same way. It’s not like no one has ever called them cowards or assholes, before.

disguy_ovahea ,

Why did it start late?

It started more than 75 minutes late. Some reported that was because Trump’s team didn’t want the event fact-checked in real time. Others, including Trump, said it was because of audio issues.

poynter.org/…/nabj-trump-interview-dei-kamala-har…

inclementimmigrant ,

He just can’t stop himself from being a total Republican can he?

Pilferjinx ,

Fucking weirdos man.

Sorgan71 ,

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    jeffw OP ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah goddamn if only OP put a paywall-free link!

    Oh wait

    Alexstarfire ,

    Hell yea. I had him saying a slur before August. Just under the wire.

    catloaf ,

    I don’t see that he actually used a slur. It seems they’re using it in the more broad sense of “insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo”.

    Alexstarfire ,

    Damn. He’s still got about an hour and a half. I have hope.

    Phegan ,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/971217cc-f4e3-4ce4-92e0-6e114a5a785f.gif

    Overt racism is not a winning strategy. Keep it going.

    spongebue ,

    I mean, it’s not, but I’m not a fan of overt racism [towards other people] as a means to an end, especially if it empowers your everyday racist

    Snowclone ,

    They always forget WHY they need to have an excuse or alternative meaning for their racist shit.

    WoahWoah ,

    Except when it is.

    eran_morad ,

    Dude went full regard.

    another ,

    Mixed race problems. “What are you?” “Well, funny thing…”

    intensely_human ,

    I identify as human ☝️

    another ,

    Intensely.

    PoopingCough ,

    Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

    theterrasque ,

    That’s super green!

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