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conditional_soup ,

I remember debating with my buddy (he’s pro-Russia) about the Ruso-Ukrainian war when it broke out, and my saying how Russia invading Ukraine because of Nazi gangs is a pretty flim flam excuse for a land grab. “It would be like the US invading Mexico and seizing territory because of the drug cartels”, I said. Why is my country this way.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty cringe that you know someone who parrots Russian govt talking points though

another ,

Every ML and hexbear

SirDerpy ,

Every ML and hexbear

That’s not been my experience with either. Are comments like the above kids on the internet, bots, or something else? Someone please explain the contrast between my perception and the mainstream perception of this community.

An ML would believe Russia is wrong to invade because it’s an imperialistic land grab. They reject NATO because it’s also a tool of imperialism.

While I don’t spend a lot of time on hexbear, I’ve enough presence to know that advocating an imperialistic land grab (be it by Russia or NATO) or for any authoritarian form of governance (be it “tankie” communism or christo-fascism) will get a user banned quickly.

conditional_soup ,

I guess. He’s an Anarchocapitalist on every other day of the week. I just enjoy arguing amicably with people, and he does too, so our friendship works.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Ancap and staunch defender of authoritarian regimes?

conditional_soup ,

Tell me about it. Anyway, he’s not under any illusions about how fucking backwards both the US and Russia’s governments are, but he really believes that Russia’s in the right on the matter of the war because there really are capital N Nazis that really are up to Nazi shit in Ukraine. As fucked as that genuinely is, imo I think that’s just the flimsy pretense being used to justify a land grab, which is why I used the analogy of the US invading Mexico under the flimsy pretense of stopping the cartels. Well, here we fucking go, I guess.

Wrench ,

Does he exclusively consume zero hedge for his media? Because he sounds exactly like my frienemy. Without the amicable part.

pixel_prophet ,

Yea except that one of those things has actually happened while the other one is Trump just pandering to xenophobes with no indention of actually doing shit.

Red_October ,

One of the biggest complaints about Democrat presidents is that they don’t follow through on their promises. It says a lot when your biggest defense of Trump is that he won’t either.

Red_October ,

The thing about Trump’s whole political career that I find most incredible is that just about any one shitty thing he ever did, in isolation, would have been absolutely career ending for anyone else, or in the very least a massive, historically significant scandal. But with him? He just keeps the hits coming, so many disasters in such quick succession that none of them really have time to sink in, there’s no time to really examine them because by the time you’ve really called him out, there’s already some other stupid shit taking up the headlines.

Obama wore a tan suit, the News cycle freaked out. Obama asked for Dijon mustard on his burger, the news says he’s hopelessly out of touch with the common people. These were SCANDALS in the public eye. Trump proposes just bombing Mexico… we have to go out of our way to point out that this is actually a big deal, because next week he’ll have done something else completely insane.

sweaterpuppys ,

Anyone got a link to video or audio of this?

ChicoSuave ,

So that’s the plan, Mexico is going to be Trump’s Poland.

suzune ,

What do you mean? Would it be the most subsidized country in the american region?

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Trumps Lebanon.

www.hrw.org/reports/1999/lebanon/Isrlb997-02.htm

njm1314 ,

I swear to God I think he got this idea from Ben Shapiro’s moronic ass book.

TheBigBrother , (edited )

If he bomb mexico, I believe mexico will flood US market with cheap meth and fentanyl as answer even more.

azimir ,

If Mexico puts sanctions on the US to limit taco seasoning in response, I’m going to be quite put out against the felon. If you deny us our tacos and tamales there’s going to hell to pay. I want a taco truck on every corner and anything that gets in the way of that dream is not cool.

TheBigBrother ,

Avocado tax…

AmidFuror ,

I think you're trolling by stating something that's already happening, but people thought you meant it ironically and up voted you.

TheBigBrother ,

Imagine it even more…

DaddleDew ,

Trump saying something extremely irresponsible and stupid isn’t newsworthy anymore.

NegativeInf ,

It should be. What purpose would this serve? No concern for life or process. It speaks directly to how Trump sees those he considers less than him. If he were president again, how long until he threatens to bomb an American state passing laws he doesn’t like?

It’s all fine and dandy when it’s brown people, but what about working class people protesting for unions and workers rights? What about women standing united for the right to bodily autonomy? When the lgbtq community throws bricks again for getting arrested for existing in public? When women’s suffrage is in question and people start taking hammers to windows and chaining themselves to railings?

Every single thing he says should be considered prelude to the worst impulses of an unhinged and irresponsible mad man with more power than most people on earth could possibly dream of.

thefartographer ,

Agreed. Trump, the personality, should not be “newsworthy” anymore. Trump, the character in our shit-stirring forecasting, shouldn’t be “newsworthy” anymore.

Trump said a crazy thing that threatens millions of people and everyone needs to know what a threat he is? That’s absolutely is still newsworthy.

Quit speculating on whether Trump is joking, if Trump believes what he says, if he’ll be nicer, or whatever other tea leaves that the media keeps claiming to be able to read. Just report on what the greatest individual immediate threat to this country is saying and doing.

DogPeePoo , (edited )

Don-Old Trump also suggested drinking bleach to cure Covid and using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes.

He’s so irresponsibly weird— and also clinically insane

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Trump asked for plans to invade Mexico:

rollingstone.com/…/donald-trump-mexico-military-c…

yesman ,

bart.jpg: What a weird thing to say.

PorradaVFR ,

“Media source stunned by the utter lack of balance and journalistic ethics in reporting on the US Presidential campaign because clicks matter more than facts when it comes to profits, are shocked to find nobody else has done the right thing either”.

Ok, so now that they realize it what will they do?

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