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Trump Cryptically Declares, ‘You Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ If He Wins Second Term

Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.

“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

radivojevic ,

Pretty sure that warrants a second attempt.

suodrazah ,

You mean a first success.

radivojevic ,

Yes, I think we are on the same page ;)

etuomaala ,

How do you know the fascists won’t just rally behind somebody else like Trump, but younger and more competent?

Cosmicomical ,

That’s the usual “if they killed hitler someone worse would have take power”. That’s not certain at all, what is certain is that hitler was very bad and removing him would have been a good thing.

etuomaala ,

Can you give an example of a time when assassination produced a better successor?

radivojevic ,

Not really a reason not to

etuomaala ,

Assassinations usually make things worse. Just look at what happened to the string of coups in South Vietnam during the Vietnam war.

Or, can you think of a time when assassination actually did improve matters?

BigMacHole ,

The Founders DEFINITELY wanted us to be Able to Shoot up Kindergarteners. THAT’S Crystal Clear! But their views on Democracy are MUCH more newanced and Unknown!

lolcatnip ,

I can’t be the only one who just doesn’t care what the founders wanted. I don’t want to live in an oligarchy of the dead!

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian.

“Hello, fellow Christians! You should vote for me, because I am, like you, a Christian! Praise Jesus!”

merc ,

“I love you, Christians! I’m not Christian.”

That’s what he said. It’s clear from the context, from his body language, from everything. You don’t talk about a group as “you X” when you’re a part of it, you talk about “we X”. He talked about them as an outsider, then made it clear he wasn’t one.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Trump has always touted himself as a Christian. It would make zero sense to go back on that now. Especially when you’re talking to a room full of Christians.

merc ,

If he was thinking clearly and not riffing, sure. But, this time it accidentally slipped out.

BlackLaZoR ,
@BlackLaZoR@kbin.run avatar

So he wants to be a permanent dictator? Sounds legit considering the SCOTUS verdict about no criminal reponsibility

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

His VP is an American monarchist.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. He wants to be a dictator on day one and then the rest of the days after that too.

TheObviousSolution ,
@TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee avatar

It’s not cryptic at all, it’s rather straightforward.

BCat70 ,

Yeah came here to say this.

rayyy ,

In case you missed it the OLD orange felon/rapist has already declared himself the winner. He has said if he isn’t the winner the election was rigged. They intend to take control no matter what.

pulaskiwasright ,

If he loses, how many states would have to just flip their electoral votes? The supreme court would 100% approve it.

rottingleaf ,

He’s done this before and all that happened was a small crowd of idiots making mess in the Capitol.

_stranger_ ,

I guarantee that THIS time there will be far more than a handful of cops on scene, regardless of who wins.

ArugulaZ ,

Cryptic, nothing. What he means is that we won’t be allowed to vote. This is precisely what happens when you tolerate tyranny for as long as we’ve tolerated Trump’s brand of it. We used to fight tyranny whenever it raised its head, but corporate media and its demands for “civility” has turned us into a nation of neuters.

Clinicallydepressedpoochie , (edited )

To anyone thinking, “well there is some subtext here we’re not talking about.” Gtfo the man wants to be putin. Since day one. Putin does have kompromat on donald. All the videos trump sends him of himself furiously masterbating.

masterofn001 ,

The subtext is Armageddon.

MeThisGuy ,

American parts, Russian parts. All made in Taiwan

Aurenkin ,

Yes very cryptic, I wonder what he could possibly mean by that?

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

So he’s basically killing democracy in his country if he wins the election.

I mean, once he wins, because I’m very pessimistic.

vga ,

I think the silver lining is that he might be too incompetent to actually pull it off, like last time he obviously tried it. Unfortunately, the US judicial or whatever system is also too incompetent to punish him so I guess he just gets to try it again and again until it works.

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

So if it doesn’t happen soon, it’s gonna happen eventually.

TheObviousSolution ,
@TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee avatar

If it’s not him, it will be some other clown. The GQP got to the position it is in even when it wasn’t brainwashing personality cult members and it wast that bad, now it is and all it takes is a non-ideal candidate on the democratic side to let them win. Democracy in the US can no longer be retained through the popular vote.

The fifth column of generational oligarchs is just trying to find its next figurehead Hitler to take leadership and if it fails, to take the fall while they sink back into obscurity to prepare for the next round.

uis ,

my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you.

I’m not an expert in American politics, but is he high on something?

peg ,

I think they’re all high on something. It results in a bad trip for the rest of us.

brucethemoose ,

That’s how he talks, even way before he ran for president. Trump was kind of a hyperbolic snake oil salesman in the stock markets before he got into politics, and he was surprisingly good at it.

Also.

Welcome to Costco, I love you

KeenFlame ,

He doesn’t seem good at it.

brucethemoose ,

He was. Say what you will about Trump, but he’s great at jawboning. And not technically lying to sell something for way more than its worth.

Look up the Motley Fool podcasts on him. They went to meet him in person.

KeenFlame ,

He just sounds completely demented to me, every time I heard him talk. I wouldn’t buy anything from him from fear of it being a scam, even if it seemed like a great deal

Gloomy ,
@Gloomy@mander.xyz avatar

Ego.

Joelk111 ,

I’m barely into politics, my high school teachings of the political system aren’t terribly strong in my mind. All that to ask:

  1. Can he do that?

And, if so:

  1. What would need to happen for a president to convert our system to lifetime terms?
  2. What would need to happen for a president to convert our system to a dictatorship/monarchy/whatever? (so we actually never voted again)
  3. Is it at all likely that Trump could make either of those things happen?

P.S. You don’t need to make the 86th comment about how this isn’t cryptic. Shitty headlines should be criticized, but it isn’t adding to the discussion at the point. I mean, look at me, I managed to get through this entire comment and not menti- Oh crap, I’m part of the problem.

HK65 ,

Not an expert on the US political system, but legislative power, and thus changing the system, is vested in Congress, not the Presidency. So he’d need to get a supermajority there, and rewrite the Constitution. Point is, it’s not Trump that can do it, but a theoretical Republican House and Senate 60% supermajority (or a supermajority of State legislatures).

Look at what happened in Hungary in 2010, that’s a blueprint of that happening. Biden dropping out is good news, since from the outside it kinda looked like the US might have been setting itself up for that kind of thing to happen. I think with Harris running, it’s not realistic the Dems will lose that bad.

That said, he could try another Jan 6th, basically take Washington under military occupation. Then it’s up to which states go along with it and which ones don’t, and you’ve got a civil war.

PersnickityPenguin ,

All he really needs is the supreme court to step in at any point there is a close contest to decide on the outcome. Also, there are only about 1,500 electors. Voting is kind of a sham.

HK65 ,

The question was how can Trump stay president after theoretically winning now and reaching his term limits.

I wondee how the SC would argue that one out.

jhymesba ,

Go back and watch Star Wars Episode 3. That’s actually a good description of how a democracy falls to autocracy. The Republicans have been openly dreaming of a “Permanant Republican Majority” since AT LEAST Bush 43’s terms in office. And they’ve been laying the framework since Nixon – a newsentertainment channel that caters to Right-Winger fantasies, judges who put ideology over legality, partisan gerrymandering that concentrates Republican voters for power and dilutes Dem votes into meaninglessness, and political theories that basically advocate for the dismantling of our political systems if that will keep Democrats out of power even if they have a majority.

To answer your questions directly:

**Can he do that?**Yes. He can. Anyone can.

**What would need to happen to convert our system to lifetime terms?**There are a variety of ways, but they all boil down to the President doing outright illegal things under cover of a friendly Supreme Court. After all, they granted immunity to ‘official acts’, which we believe is cover for an autocratic takeover of the country.

**What would need to happen to convert our system into a dictatorship/monarchy/whatevs?**This is just a hypothetical situation. It’s July 2028. Mass incarcerations of Leftists, Immigrants, Muslims, and Minorities have begun and the country is in the throes of a civil war. Polling is reporting that Trump could lose the election, despite disenfranchising the Left’s voting base through various means. Trump announces he’s postponing the 2028 elections 'until things calm down, they have to get much better first before we can have a fair election." People sue. It doesn’t matter what happens in the lower courts, because they’ll appeal all the way up to the Supreme Court. The same 6 Conservative ideologues that said he has immunity for ‘official acts’ will rule that he has the right to suspend the election. And that, my friends, is how Democracy ends, with massive applause from the Alt-Right assholes that Clinton quite rightly fucking called “Deplorable”.

**Can Trump actually make either of those happen?**Yes. Yes, he can. The framework is already laid out. HK-65 laid it out elsewhere. Essentially, you start by shutting the Other Side out of government. You then take over all the levers of government. Then you set them so you can’t lose. You might need to just waive away the safetyguards that get in your way, and some you might use your lock on government to remove ‘legitimately’. If the 22nd Amendment gets in the way of a Republican dynasty, they’ll have it removed.

TL;DR? Never rely on checks and balances to stop authoritarianism. In the end, the Constitution IS just a piece of paper, and will be run over by authoritarian jerks if that means power.

Facebones ,

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Zink ,

The government is run by people, so he just needs a critical mass of followers in important positions in order to gum things up. That’s why the #1 and perhaps only thing he cares about in other people are how much they like him and how loyal they are. Also to him.

PersnickityPenguin ,

Its rhetoric for sure, but there are possible methods to suspend elections. We don’t know what they are yet until a group starts publicly speculating about how it could legally be done. Not that it is impossible, who knows what the future may hold?

I would say its pretty doubtful you could indefinitely suspend federal elections, but cheetoh benito loves to dog whistle to his base.

Zerlyna ,
@Zerlyna@lemmy.world avatar

If you listen to that audio closely it sounds like he said “im not Christian”. But then he would be telling the truth. And he doesn’t know how to do that.

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

As I recall when he was president he laughed at Christian dignitaries and called them stupid to his aides.

I think he enjoys being the wolf in sheep clothes, especially when addressing Christians.

I_Clean_Here ,

Nothing cryptic about it

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

To be fair, even thought that’s not needed with this guy, what he could actually mean is that he doesn’t give a crap who anyone votes for in 4 years since its not going to be him anyway, and for him he is the only person that counts.

But yeah, all the other theories are also plausible unfortunately.

perviouslyiner , (edited )

Could be the only thing he cares about getting “fixed” are his impending criminal trials?

dmtalon ,

I was hoping someone else in here would say this. This would be his second term.

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

You are wrong. All you have to do is listen to the words he actually said.

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