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Biden: what would Trump have done if the Capitol riots had been led by Black Americans?

Joe Biden has launched one of his most scathing attacks yet on Donald Trump’s record of racism, suggesting that the former US president would have acted differently to the January 6 2021 insurrection if was led by Black people.

The remarks, at a dinner hosted by a civil rights organisation in a critical swing state, pointed to an intensifying battle between Biden and Trump for African American voters ahead of November’s presidential election.

“Let me ask you,” Biden said during an address to an NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) dinner in Detroit. “What do you think he would have done on January 6 if Black Americans had stormed the Capitol?”

There was a collective gasp and murmur in the cavernous convention centre, where an estimated 5,000 guests had gathered. The president insisted: “No, I’m serious. What do you think? I can only imagine.”

kandoh ,

I remember saying at the time of these were black Americans they’d have been shooting immediately. There would have been fucking Blackhawks deployed and a show of force like you’ve never seen on your life.

Blackmist ,

Then America would have another Tiananmen Square to add to the MOVE bombing, Tulsa, Waco, etc.

merthyr1831 ,

The Biden government and cops would’ve crushed the riots with way more force if they’d been lead by black americans. Just look at how much more violent the cops are against students protesting peacefully compared to how they straight-up helped the trump supporters into the Capitol most of the way lmfao.

phoenixz ,

Are you really that daft that you think police under trump will be more responsible and more, you know, doing their actual job of protect and serve, instead of profiling and killing?

merthyr1831 , (edited )

Police across the US have been killing people at a greater rate every year under his admin, so what exactly about Biden’s glowing record on police violence is worth comparing to Trump? Not to mention he wants to hire another 100,000 more pigs.

You don’t get to gloat about how much better you are with black people when you’re no better than the guy characterising himself as some kind of American Mussolini.

The rest of you liberals can fuck off back to reddit too. You don’t get to claim victory over a fascist that your golden dementia boy is no better than. Absolutely pathetic that you act morally superior to kids dying because he’s on “your team”

EDIT:

Before you leave you “but trump!!” comment, consider reopening your Reddit account because this snark about Biden being better than Trump when they both get throbbing erections for brutalised kids won’t get you nearly as far as it did on that astroturfed shithole.

Facebones ,

The “moral” wing of our single corporate party government out here arguing that genocide is good cause the alternative is genocide

BReel ,

I love that you think OTHERS need to go back to Reddit. With comment’s like this you’d fit right back in bb!

Also everyone say ty everyday for your ability to block people! It’s incredibly useful!

phoenixz ,

Wow, very… Nuanced. Where to even begin?

How about this? Let’s start here:

I get your anger, and a lot of what you say is true. However, we live in reality where you sometimes have limited options, some being bad, others being worse.

Let’s see:

ALL US presidents have done a lot of shit, and in average, the US is not really a force for good in this world.

However.

I want to imagine that you understand the concept of bad, worse, worst, right?

So the US is bad for the world. Saudi Arabia is worse, China and Russia are the worst.

So Obama, I’d say, was bad. Biden is worse, trump is the worst.

What I’m (and many with me) advocating is not voting for the best, I’m advocating to vote for the least bad. Right now, it looks like you will end up either with president Biden or president Trump, like it or not. Believe me, not my choices either, but those are the cards we have been dealt.

So my question to you is: do you prefer Biden, or Trump? Do you believe that Trump will be better for the world, for the US and for you?

Trump, who famously lies and cheats to get ahead, Trump who famously said he’ll deport protesting students (don’t ask me how, it’s his idea), trump who wants police officers to be harsher and have more authority…

Because as I understand you, and please correct me if I’m wrong, you want police to be accountable and less authoritative. Trumo will do the opposite, he claims so all the time.

So with that in mind, do you want trump or Biden? If you want neither, that’s not an option, you’ll get either one of those as your president and that person WILL influence the police.

So which do you want?

efstajas ,

What are you even talking about… “the Biden cops”…? You do realize that capitol police don’t take orders from the president?

merthyr1831 ,

Oh brilliant, in which case his snark about Trump doesn’t make any sense because the cops would be racist on their own terms under either president.

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of this guy to snark about police violence against rioters when he’s outright encouraging the crackdown that is infinitely more peaceful.

Go back to reddit if you really want to live in the pretend world where Biden is a gentle, benevolent dictator just because you’re not bothered about the people his admin is helping repress at home and abroad.

efstajas ,

Go back to reddit if you really want to live in the pretend world where Biden is a gentle, benevolent dictator just because you’re not bothered about the people his admin is helping repress at home and abroad.

what in the world did I say that makes you think that this is my opinion? God, this place is exhausting…

stanleytweedle ,

The Biden government and cops would’ve crushed the riots with way more force if they’d been lead led by black americans. Just look at how much more violent the cops are against students protesting peacefully compared to how they straight-up helped the trump supporters into the Capitol most of the way lmfao.

FTFY

Blackmist ,

You do realise Biden wasn’t actually president at that point, right?

assassin_aragorn ,

Biden wasn’t president on Jan 6, 2021.

Let me give you some friendly advice – next time you want to “but both sides” something, I suggest you get basic civics correct. Otherwise it’s incredibly easy to dismiss you as a very low information voter.

Treczoks ,

If the Jan 6 insurrection had been done by people of color, Trump would have seen to that the few survivors would be severely punished. The rest would have been dumped in a mass grave.

BadlyTimedLuck ,

Based

some_guy ,

Good point.

catch22 ,
@catch22@programming.dev avatar

According to Biden if you are black and you voted for Trump, nothing, because - “You got more questions, but I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

rollingstone.com/…/joe-biden-you-aint-black-apolo…

UltraMagnus0001 ,

The Black Panthers?

DaBabyAteMaDingo ,

Ah yes how can we forget the two dozen armed black people practicing their 2nd amendment that caused Reagan to sign a gun control law so said blacks couldn’t have guns anymore 🤣😂

unreasonabro , (edited )

i don’t know, this strikes me as dirty pool, the sort that you get bitten in the ass for. I guess we’re pretending in this scenario that it wasn’t Trump who called them there and organized them in the first place? We aren’t so desperate and out of ideas - already! - as to try to pretend he would call them there and then entrap his own supporters just because of their skin colour, are we? Cuz that’s stooping pretty low and there ain’t no call for that when you’re literally running against the gutter; quite the opposite. All you gotta do is run on the facts. (Or RUN AT ALL, HILARY)

This just comes off as another white guy playing the race card on your behalf so as to get something out of it.

Besides, surely there were two or three black folk there, weren’t there? Surely! ;)

masquenox ,

Well… we know how the Biden regime acted when the capitol race riot was led by white supremacists, don’t we?

And the answer is absolutely nothing - even when they killed some of their fellow blue-lives-matter fascist brethren - in stark contrast to the way the regime is acting against student protests against the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Good job outing yourself again, GJ - but at this stage it’s just mundane.

Jaysyn , (edited )
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Well… we know how the Biden regime acted when the capitol race riot was led by white supremacists, don’t we?

The ones they are literally still tracking down & prosecuting? Are you upset that the largest investigation ever is taking more time than you'd like?

Do you want the President to have complete and direct control of the DoJ? Do you want the DoJ to toss out all Federal Sentencing guidelines?

Do you want what you want right now, damn the future consequences?

Tell me you want a dictatorship without telling me you want a dictatorship.

PS: I don't believe that you're actually stupid enough to think the White House has anything to do with what is going on on college campuses, so I didn't address that absurdity.

masquenox ,

The ones they are literally still tracking down & prosecuting?

You mean the white supremacist lynch mob they could have easily stopped on Jan 6th but didn’t? That one?

The ones that will be getting out once your good cop hands over to the bad cop come November?

It really seems that, no matter what suit they have in the Waffle House, the neo-nazis and the klan-boys gets to do whatever they want - and get away with it.

anything to do with what is going on on college campuses

The buck never stops with (insert current Wall Street shill peddled by the Dems here), does it liberal?

captainlezbian ,

Oh you mean when trump was president? Tell me how you expect Biden to have acted on his executive authority on the day he was set to be confirmed as having won his first presidential election.

I assume you blame the 08 crash on Obama too.

masquenox ,

Oh you mean when trump was president?

All you’re telling me is that Trump can sicc a white supremacist lynch mob on the capitol and get away with it scott free… while Biden can (supposedly) do absolutely nothing about his (yes, his) goon squads violently repressing campus protests against US policy?

What is your end-game here, liberal? How long do you think this “lesser evilism” schtick can go before it hits rock bottom?

I assume you blame the 08 crash on Obama too.

Yeah… we’re still waiting for Obama to prosecute the capitalists that crashed the economy - I guess the hundreds of billions in handouts he gave to these very same capitalists happened in order to prosecute them better, yes?

hydrospanner ,

Just like so many short sighted people.

“I’m okay with totalitarian dictatorship if they’re doing things I like.”

GiddyGap ,

There are a bunch of people in prison over Jan 6. Trump is the one who wants to free them all if he wins. Lol but not lol.

BigMacHole ,

EXACTLY! WHY didn’t Biden do anything on JANUARY 6TH? HMM? And WHY didn’t BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA DO ANYTHING ABOUT 9/11? Checkmate Lbitards!

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

No need to guess, just look at how Trump’s confederates treat BLM protestors and their executioners: texastribune.org/…/daniel-perry-racist-comments-t…

Abbott made good on his promise and pardoned Perry last week for the murder a jury found him guilty of committing.

Test_Tickles ,

The court documents also revealed that Perry sent inappropriate messages to someone who claimed to be 16 years old through Kik Messenger, a communication platform that has been used to share child pornography.

"Also promise me no nudes until you are old enough to be of age,” Perry wrote, the same month he shot and killed Foster.

Before signing off, Perry wrote, “I am going to bed come up with a reason why I should be your boyfriend before I wake up.”

WTF?

Stamau123 ,

Conservative poster child BTW

sucricdrawkcab ,
@sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world avatar

We would instantly transport back into the 1950’s. After “animals” “thugs” gets thrown out his z league faux military supporters would be outraged and a lot of people would get killed.

MonkderDritte ,

It would be as huge a deal as the twintowers attack.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Seems icky to use black people as a political chip like this.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

So you’re saying Biden shouldn’t talk about what black people’s lives are worth under Trump to the NAACP?

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

We shouldn’t talk to the association for colored people about colored people? Seems like exactly what a politician should talk to them about… politics

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

There would be non-stop coverage of Jan 6 on Fox News 24/7 since the day it happened, guaranteed.

octopus_ink ,

Someone lights a dumpster on fire -

“Washington DC - BURNED TO THE GROUND BY BLM!”

OccamsRazer ,

How do you think MSNBC and CNN would cover it?

lennybird , (edited )
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly I’m pretty sure close to the same. At the least they’d probably call it a riot as opposed to an insurrection but it begs the question — would they do such a thing in the first place?

We can get a clue of this on how they covered the George Floyd Protests outside the White House on May 29th, 2020.

… But the left didn’t trespass into the Capitol; nor did they start beating cops relentlessly. Nor were their grievances as patently hollow and void as the Jan 6’ers. Nor were their actions stoked by the President, themselves. Nor were their goals as remotely fascist.

OccamsRazer ,

It’s a little confusing what Biden even meant. I assumed he was asking if white people were swapped out for Black people on Jan 6, and all else were equal.

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