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Ron DeSantis bans 'global elite' lab-grown meat

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has banned lab-grown meat, saying he will “save our beef” from the “global elite” and its “authoritarian plans”.

“Florida is fighting back against the global elite’s plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs,” Mr DeSantis said in a statement.

The first-in-the-nation law prohibits anyone from selling or distributing lab-grown meat in Florida.

Similar efforts are under way in Alabama, Arizona and Tennessee.

Lab-grown or “cultivated” meat was first cleared for consumption in the US in 2022.

The process of making cultivated meat involves extracting cells from an animal, which are then fed with nutrients such as proteins, sugars and fats. The end product is genetically indistinguishable from traditionally produced meat.

Studies have suggested that eating cultivated meat can cut carbon emissions and water usage, and free up land for nature, compared to eating traditionally produced meat.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Who else than a large corp with sufficient funding can develop and market lab-grown meat anyway? Of course this kind of stuff will come from a large corp at first. Is he willing to launch a state-owned lab to fund it publicly? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

It’s not like people will jump at the opportunity to buy some backyard-shed-grown meat today, as appetizing that might sound.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I only eat bespoke lab-grown meat.

ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

I’m holding out for free-range lab-grown meat. /s

I’m actually excited to try it if ever given the opportunity. Have been incorporating meat alternatives over the last 2 years and have cut out about 70% of my former beef consumption. Which, for me, is a lot.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

All I care about are two things: Does it taste good and is it okay to eat? If it fulfills those two requirements, I have no problem with it.

ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Exactly!

TigrisMorte ,

There is a third, cost, which plays a very important part as well

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s too expensive, I won’t eat it. But I also wouldn’t want it banned.

TigrisMorte ,

Petri dish free so you know the cells were free range as well.

dyathinkhesaurus ,

“bespoke, artisanal lab-grown”?

henfredemars ,

Totally not compensating for something energy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This guy? Compensating?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8163a76a-5d51-4d99-9e2d-8f519a4da7f8.png

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Literal clown shoes.

henfredemars ,

Heels? But that’s for women. What are you, some kind of lady boy? Did meat substitutes do it to you?

/s if I must

catloaf ,

Cowboy boots with heels are definitely for men (helps keep your boot in the stirrup), but he’s no cowboy.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

The emperor has no rizz

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Good! I only want free-range, hormone-free, grass-fed global elite

taanegl ,

Maybe? I mean the big criticism is that it’s just highly processed food at the end of the day and that the process of production is what is the issue. This is of course an argument made by what you may call food purists, who’d rather you spend money on a proper blender than rely on big corporations to form Scop 2.0.

But that’s not what Ronnie boy is thinking about. Oh no. He’s thinking about “owning the libs”, “showing them what for”, and what kind of cretinous, disingenuous bastard he can be. He would gladly invest in something like Scop 2.0 if it made a lot of money, AND performatively ban it in his state if it vaguely had an LGBTQ+ tinge to it.

This is a careful reminder that some states banned solar panels out of spite… because people elect absolute troglodytes to represent them, and then have the balls to talk about “free markets”.

GTFO here with your fake self. In fact, take the whole republican party with you.

DarkThoughts ,

I mean the big criticism is that it's just highly processed food at the end of the day and that the process of production is what is the issue.

Not really? I honestly have not heard anyone argue like this against lab grown meat. The whole point of it is to have more ethical meat that also does not destroy our basis of life through emissions.

toomanypancakes , (edited )
@toomanypancakes@lemmy.world avatar

There’s no ethical way to kill someone who’s done nothing to you and doesn’t want to die. There’s no such thing as ethical meat.

Edit: I can’t read apparently

DarkThoughts ,

Save your virtue signaling for someone else.

pezhore ,
@pezhore@lemmy.ml avatar

I think that’s the point of lab grown meat. If you can harvest the stem cells of a living animal and use those to grow full sides of beef (I’m vastly oversimplifying the process), then no animals have been killed.

Bonus, emissions may be lower depending when comparing typical animal emissions vs the facility that produces the LGM.

toomanypancakes ,
@toomanypancakes@lemmy.world avatar

I apologize, it’s early. The term ethical meat just annoys me, and I didn’t thoroughly read what I was responding to. While I question the ethics around obtaining the stem cells in practice, I do agree lab grown meat is radically better than taking the flesh from animals.

SpaceNoodle ,

Which states ban solar panels?

afraid_of_zombies ,

Which governments ban tik Tok?

SpaceNoodle ,

Pretty sure solar panels are legal in the US, jackass.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Pretty sure Tik Tok isn’t, jackass

SpaceNoodle ,

🙄

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

Do his supporters really believe hes an “every man” like them, and not literally one of the “global elite”?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

They like him because he hates the right people.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

He also antagonises the right people.

This law is designed specifically to upset the wokerati.

jkrtn ,

His supporters love hierarchy. All they want is white supremacist hierarchy. If they are in a middle tier and the bottom tiers are suffering that is their ideal society.

Sunforged ,

Do people believe Fetterman is an every man because he wears sweats?

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

What? Its nothing to do with banning meat - its the message and reason as to why its being banned.

“Ban lab meat because the global elite!” vs “Ban lab meat to support farmers”.

girsaysdoom ,

It’s the same line of reasoning with different excuses; I don’t like it so no one should have it.

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

My comment was literally only calling out his “global elite” remark. Thats it.

Sunforged ,

Libs are fine with the same outcomes as long as you use the right words. It’s wild.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

You’re telling me that motivation matters? Wild.

Sunforged ,

No that’s the opposite of what I am saying. Material impact is what matters, I don’t give a fuck what words are said.

This is bad policy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, the ‘global elite,’ who they also call ‘globalists.’ And who are they talking about?

The term is now frequently used as a pejorative by far-right movements and conspiracy theorists, as in the New World Order conspiracy theory;[3] it is associated with antisemitism, as antisemites frequently appropriate the term globalist to refer to Jews.[3][4][5]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

uberdroog ,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

He is just a turd.

meleecrits ,
@meleecrits@lemmy.world avatar

Remember, that’s just a wild conspiracy. Criticizing the Israeli government’s genocide is antisemitic though…

ech ,

The way you’ve phrased this sounds like you think there really is a Jewish cabal that runs the world and is ruining it.

meleecrits ,
@meleecrits@lemmy.world avatar

I apologize if you thought I was implying that. I am in no way agreeing that there is a “Deep State” or anything to that effect. I was trying to draw criticism to DeSantis’ use of the word Globalists, which does have antisemitic overtones, while the House just passed a bill that could lead to criticism of Israel in any way would count as antisemitism.

Sarcasm on the internet is hard to convey.

ech ,

Gotcha. I understand now.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for clarifying, I didn’t understand the comment either. (I did not downvote it, however.)

msage ,

Sarcasm on the internet is hard to convey.

No, it’s not.

/s

RememberTheApollo_ ,

I think the term has no real meaning to them anymore. It’s just another term thrown at anything they don’t like, like “woke” or whatever. I’m sure some definitely use it deliberately, but I think most lack the directed prejudice and just use it lazily as a catch-all for “liberal”.

Carrolade ,

That’s the whole point of obfuscating it in the first place. If you come out and say “Jews who control the world want to force everyone to eat bugs”, you sound like an idiot. So, you give it a candy coating to make it go down better, and hope a certain percentage will eventually “do their own research” and come to your desired conclusion.

It’s the most strategically sound method you can come up with to perpetuate the conspiracy theories in the modern day. It’s similar to how cults don’t start the recruitment process by walking up to you and going “Hey, want to join a cult?”

wanderer ,

The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:
You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*****, n*****, n*****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*****, n*****.”

thenation.com/…/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1…

monsterlynn ,
@monsterlynn@kbin.social avatar

Definitely some of them use it that way. It's clever in a thuggish way because the implication is that the base is just regular, normal folks.

BakerBagel ,

Whatever they are saying is just a standin for a slur. Look at the tweet about “Baltimore’s DEI mayor” and too immediately see that they are just using CRT, woke, gender ideology, DEI, elite, or whatever new term comes into Vogue next month as a stand in for whatever applicable slur.

FirstCircle ,
@FirstCircle@lemmy.ml avatar

whatever new term comes into Vogue

These people are reading Vogue? That’s an interesting twist. I wouldn’t have thought the average Fascist would be all that into fashion. Fashists?

fuckingkangaroos ,

It’s part of the “other,” which is used to create fear that drives support for their politicians.

Right wing leaders and their propagandists can’t be too specific with concepts because large parts of them are contrived. They don’t need to be specific because their target audience is people who think and make decisions more with emotions, which doesn’t require clear concepts and terms, than reason.

“The left” absolutely does it too, although it’s not as bad.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

They don’t just turn terms into slurs to rally the morons, they do it to attack the ideological base of their opponents.

“Globalist” became a dogwhistle for Jewish people because fascists pretended to think socialism, which inherently rejects nationalism or loses all meaning, was a Jewish conspiracy. By turning it into a meaningless slur they’re not just turning their base against the idea, they’re making their opponents react to its use as slur.

As it happens, neoliberalism ended up having a different kind of globalist goal, so they got a free 2 for 1 slur against their ideological enemies even though the end goals are wildly different. And, obviously, fascists don’t see the need to explain how the “Jewish conspiracy” is behind both socialism and neoliberalism.

It also just turns people against the concept without understanding what it actually is.

Thus me just last week having to argue with a “socialist” social democrat about how “globalism” isn’t a dogwhistle on an ideological level.

ThirdWorldOrder ,

It’ll be a new culture war thing next week anyway

Honytawk ,

It’s nice to know he recognises the elite nature of globalism though.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

The ‘global elite’ wouldn’t touch lab grown meat. This stuff is meant to sustain the poor when cow meat production becomes cost prohibitive (it already is without government subsidies).

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s ridiculous. Every scientist I have ever seen involved in this field says it is about getting people to give up or at least eat less meat for the good of the planet.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Our points don’t disagree. Point #1 The goal is food production in order to sustain a growing population. Current production is ecologically and economically unsustainable. Point #2 The “global elite” wouldn’t be caught dead eating lab grown meat unless they are doing a promo for the “lab grown meat” company.

Guntrigger ,

Personally, I imagine the global elite to be Cypher, enjoying a succulent steak while selling out the rest of humanity to robots.

billiam0202 ,

Also the Harvard/Yale grad complaining about “elites”. Tell me again who gets into those schools? The run-of-the-mill pablum?

Jaysyn ,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Sawed-off, short-sighted fascist strikes again.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

That’s what a cocaine addiction will do.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

He’s snorting lead

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