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GroundPlane ,

Does anyone have the picture? I have grown weary of claims of antisemitism these days since they are so often raised for antizionist criticism

JoBo ,

The description is enough.

roastedDeflator ,

If it was just the star of David, it's antisemitism.
If it was the star of David within the flag of Israel, it's antizionism.

Antizionism is necessary for peace.

HerbalGamer ,
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Copied from a newsletter published by students in the U.S. Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s, the image features a Black man and an Arab man with nooses around their necks, held by a hand imprinted with the Star of David that has a dollar sign in the middle of the star.

Yeah I can see why this considered problematic.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
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Anti-zionism isn’t anti-semitism…

FlyingSquid ,
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the image features a Black man and an Arab man with nooses around their necks, held by a hand imprinted with the Star of David that has a dollar sign in the middle of the star.

Does that sound like antisemitism or anti-Zionism to you?

Because I would say the former.

Lawyerator ,

I can see how the cartoon is inappropriate. A Star of David references Judaism as a whole. It paints an entire religion as the perpetrators of bad acts that can only reasonably be laid at the feet of Netanyahu’s Israeli government. An Israeli flag might be more appropriate, but it would still be painting ordinary Israeli citizens with too broad of a brush.

On the flip side, the military controlled by Nethanyahu’s government seems to be painting all Gaza citizens as targets, regardless of affiliation with Hamas or lack thereof. This stance sucks and is evil.

Killing innocent people like Hamas and Israel have is a clear ethical failure. Fomenting culture-wide hatred of a group in a way that encourages future killing of innocent people like Hamas and Israel have is also an ethical failure.

Harvard was right to condemn the cartoon, but there is no real good guy here.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

An Israeli flag might be more appropriate, but it would still be painting ordinary Israeli citizens with too broad of a brush.

Not really since most of them support the "war" in Gaza. These are the same people who have been voting Netanyahu for 20 years. Should've been the Israeli flag.

FuglyDuck ,
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A Star of David references Judaism as a whole. It paints an entire religion as the perpetrators of bad acts that can only reasonably be laid at the feet of Netanyahu’s Israeli government. An Israeli flag might be more appropriate, but it would still be painting ordinary Israeli citizens with too broad of a brush.

Just for the record, the Israeli citizens you’re giving a free pass to, voted for this government. More or less.

They aren’t totally holding the bags, they do have some blame to carry. Same way as an American I have some blame for Bush’s war in Iraq or Obama’s war in Afghanistan.

Ashyr ,

Obama started a war in Afghanistan?

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Surged troops for pipelines, and he certainly didn’t stop the war.

machinin ,

He was in charge for 8 years,. He took ownership of killing all those people.

Pot ,

The israeli citizens are blocking humanitarian aid and are going to the torture chambers to take selfies while naked palestinians are being tortured by the army.

FlyingSquid , (edited )
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An Israeli flag wouldn’t be enough. The cartoon implies that Jews, who own all the money, are killing off Arabs and black people.

A hand imprinted with the flag of Israel hanging a Palestinian? Disturbing, maybe intentionally so, but not antisemitic.

masquenox ,

are killing off Arabs and black people.

Perhaps you should ask the opinions of Ethiopian Jewish folk before writing that off as inappropriate.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, okay. Well that definitely makes the whole cartoon not antisemitic because that’s for sure what the cartoonist was talking about. My mistake.

masquenox ,

I’m not saying it’s not antisemitic - there is still a minority of antisemites out there that hates Jewish folks more than they hate Arab people (the reverse seems to be the case for the majority of western antisemitism these days). What I am saying is that Israel is no less anti-black than the US is - and no less white supremacist. The author may be referencing that - or they may not.

FlyingSquid ,
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Considering the article says the cartoon comes from the 1960s and the Beta Israel Exodus didn’t begin until 1979, I think we can be absolutely sure that the author is not referencing that and is just a piece of shit antisemite.

masquenox ,

the cartoon comes from the 1960s

Yeah, I’d say that pretty much settles it.

Lookin4GoodArgs ,

Okay, now do the genocidal anti-Palestinian support.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

That would be half of their faculty

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