US 'planning to move nuclear weapons to Suffolk RAF base'

originalucifer , 5 months ago

ha, like there arent a handful of nuke-laden subs already over in that region.

this is optics

BeardedGingerWonder , 5 months ago

What in the fuck is actually going on? Serious question, I get there’s war happening in Ukraine, but that doesn’t remotely look like spilling over or even realistically taking all of Ukraine. Militaries are talking about increasing in size, Sweden were talking about citizens being prepared for war - is there some indication of a large scale land war coming that I’m missing?

originalucifer , 5 months ago

russia chose ukraine specifically because they got away with it before. you think theyre just going to stop if we 'let them have' part of ukraine?

russia has failed at whatever it was attempting, and is now dragging it out long enough to be a problem for NATO.

NATO is responding.

BeardedGingerWonder , 5 months ago

No, absolutely I don’t think they should let them have any of it, I’m not sure how that could be read into my comment.

Equally NATO have in no way indicated they have any plans of setting foot in Ukraine and outright said they won’t. None of which explains why senior military leaders in the UK are saying they need to be able to raise an armed force double what they have at the minute, why nukes are being stationed in the UK or why Sweden are foreseeing land war in Europe.

originalucifer , 5 months ago

ha, ok. NATO members are preparing for some unknown possible escalation.

BeardedGingerWonder , 5 months ago

Well that’s kind of what I’m asking, is there something obvious I’m missing? Russia don’t look capable of escalating, they’re not even making inroads into Ukraine. A couple of squadrons of F35s would make a significant dent in Russian progress in Ukraine, but no-one even seems super keen to send F16s.

I’m genuinely curious what scenario they’re currently seeing where a few hundred thousand troops are going to be necessary soon?

originalucifer , 5 months ago

i bet theres a metric fucktonne of info only handful of world leaders on in on. if i had to guess, russia is prolly internally throwing ideas of doing something stupid.

for reasons, well... it could be the f16s already in use are having an effect, and russia is about to respond hard core with air control... it could be that russia is frustrated and now willing to use small scale, 'local nukes' to shock ukraine.

maybe ukraine is starting to take the fight over the border, and that is spooking russia

a lot of these things lead to the war bleeding outside of ukraine, and stepping directly into nato territory on all sides.

intelisense , 5 months ago

I’ve been wondering the same, and my conclusion is rather alarming: a new axis of evil has formed between Iran, Russia, and North Korea. Russia shat the bed, so Iran is increasingly taking the lead. The troubles off the coast of Yemen are a product of that. China is the wild card here, but they certainly want to make a play for Taiwan and are just waiting for the right time… so, yeah, we seem to be heading for another global conflict. I hope I’m wrong.

JimboDHimbo , 5 months ago

If we get to that point, I’d prefer it all to go down at the same time so that we’re all “Even Stevens” globally, if you catch my drift.