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magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

I was really, really hoping this was from The Onion.

Uranium3006 ,
@Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

I feel sick

masquenox ,

And still people make surprised Pikachu faces when we call Israel a white supremacist settler-colonialist state.

bh11235 , (edited )

white supremacist

Lol. Lmao, even.

None of the 54 people who upvoted this have the first idea about how Israeli internal politics relates to white supremacy. None of them know how Likud got elected in '77, on top what of ethnic tensions. None of them know the names “Dudi Amsalem”, “Miri Regev”, “Galit Distel”, who are high ranking ministers in the current Israeli govt (Distel quit recently), and how they built their political capital and support base on top of repeated scorn and derision for “the white tribe” which in Israel is traditionally identified with the secular liberal elites, who vote for left wing parties and try to promote left wing policies. Listen to some of the stuff that this wing of Likud says, ironically they don’t sound far off from the BLM movement who of course they will tell you that they oppose in their capacity as staunch conservatives. Don’t underestimate how much of Likud’s power comes from exactly that fault line in Israeli society.

Go ahead and call Israel bigoted, a settler state, a colonialist project, all of these start off an argument that often Israel is going to look not so great coming out of – but “white supremacist”? People make the surprised Pikachu face because this take is detached from physical reality. Out of what I want to believe is good intentions, you ended up shoving the square peg that is this conflict into the convenient round hole that is this narrative about colors vs. whites which has not applied since decades before the turn of the century.

FWIW I don’t personally have the taste for any of this. I wish I could stop hearing about the imaginary applications of colors to Israeli internal and foreign policy, and instead start hearing more about practical plans of how to ensure security in the region and how to aim for a future where millions of Gazans don’t starve. But clearly no one is asking me.

masquenox ,

TLDR - “Israel cannot be white supremacist because white supremacism doesn’t exist.”

To use your terms, Clyde:

Lol. Lmao, even.

Woht24 ,

Bad bot.

Ilovethebomb ,

What a blazing dumpster fire of a website.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Downvoters be like “I don’t see a problem”

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/c86518b2-c844-4740-9908-6c4c2182ee5f.png

Ilovethebomb ,

I don’t see the article, personally.

And yes, I can open in an external browser with adblock, but I shouldn’t have to.

Hyperreality ,

If you build it, and if the price is right, they will come. There are a lot of people who simply don't care.

bh11235 ,

The advertisement is specifically about returning to the Gaza settlements that were abandoned during the disengagement of 2005; no one in Israel right now knows what’s going to happen to Gaza once the war winds down, there’s no consensus even for what the Israel public would want to happen in theory. So, while this ad is jingoistic, tasteless and not a good look, it is not some deep chess move by the Israeli govt sending the real estate industry to Jewify Gaza; it’s one actor among a cacophony of competing voices, shouting “LET US UNDO THE 2005 DISENGAGEMENT THIS IS THE REAL SOLUTION”. If you want to correctly argue that historically these kinds of crazies do end up having govt backing then by all means argue that, but it’s better to understand the situation as it currently is.

Altofaltception ,

Well this particular actor has been quite successfully “Jewifying”, to use your term, the West Bank.

If you look at the increase of settlements between Oslo and Camp David, you can see why Camp David was a non-starter for the Palestinians.

Now Gaza will slowly be clawed away and the occupiers will ask why the Palestinians don’t want peace.

girlfreddy , (edited )
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It’s Netanyahu’s whole plan in a nutshell … raze it to the ground, then let rich Israeli’s buy up the land and leave nothing for Palestinians.

Altofaltception ,

There was a conspiracy theory that showed a proposed canal that will go right through Gaza (the Ben Gurion canal) that seeks to divert some of the traffic from the Suez canal.

DreamerofDays ,

That seems pretty bonkers, with the barest minimum knowledge of geography.

Like, look at a map level of bonkers.

Altofaltception ,

Not too bonkers - if you cut through Gaza, run south, between Beersheba and the Egyptian border and continue in a straight line parallel to the border you hit the Gulf of Aqaba.

kurwa ,

That would be like 100 miles / 200 km

Altofaltception ,

Okay. That’s less than 10% of the distance across the Mediterranean.

AllonzeeLV ,

Zionists at this point:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2b258b66-4df6-4998-8e4f-1c2b7492d4f3.jpeg

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

"Are we the baddies?"

themeatbridge ,

Wait, thats wasn’t some absurdly sick joke?

Altofaltception ,

globalnews.ca/…/remax-agent-gaza-strip-social-med…

This one in Canada was.

themeatbridge ,

Oh OK that must be what I was thinking of.

Still, what the fuck is wrong with people?

Milk_Sheikh ,

It was played off that way at least. Follow the linked article to the twitter profile, you can see he’s deeply reprehensible and a huge booster of settlements. He would “gladly build the condos if the government allowed it” when asked for comment.

Epshtein told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that his employees were hearing talk about the “day after” the war and one option discussed was reoccupying Gaza and reestablishing Israeli settlements there. Another post advertises “presale” lots on a map of Gaza, dividing it into regions named after the evacuated Gush Katif settlements. It also includes the settlement of “Nova,” named for the Supernova rave targeted by Hamas in the Oct. 7 massacres, and “Upper Nova,” which is billed as a new city for ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews.

Seems like the office staff put a little more than “15 mins for the lulz” in photoshop to mock up the house render, given that there’s community names, maps, and lot layouts. What a lovely bunch of ghouls.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Like the Russians selling property in Mariupol. Disgusting.

Ilovethebomb ,

Those are selling dirt cheap right now, too.

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