Unpopular take. This seems like a very grey case without a clear right and wrong based on the actions of the accused shoplifter in driving the car. I think there were some questionable split second decisions on both sides.
People shouldn’t die over shoplifting. It’s pretty clear this shooting was about not about the supporting, but 2 decisions made during the apprehension. 1. The suspect not surrendering and attempting to drive away. 2. The officer standing in front of the car to block egress making a decision when the car moved forward and making contact with his body.
To folks saying the cop could have stepped out of the way or not been there, Id be curious what department training states an officer should do when apprehending a suspect in a parked vehicle. Did the officer follow training and protocol?
What’s the protocol and training? Did he follow it? Did the woman have any responsibility to surrender to the police? The video looks like it was a bad cascade of multiple parties making bad split second decisions.
This is yet another example of a police officer getting minimal training, 6 months and here you have a gun, now go be Rambo. Coooool!
In North western Europe, police officers require good education to even be able to start their police officer education. Then it’s 4 years of learning to get to a point that they can call themselves a basic police officer.
Wanna go anything beyond that? Be a detective? More schooling.
In the US they explicitly filter on getting dumber people, they give no adequate training at all, don’t tech them de-escalation, etc.
Couple that with a police force that has a ver “we protect eachother over protecting them”
Couple that with a culture that is much more authoritive. Freedom? Hah! Obey! That kid smokes a joint? Toss him in jail!
Couple that with a justice system that is much more focussed on punishment instead of rehabilitation.
Couple that with an endless supply of guns out in the street.
Seriously, how is anyone surprised that this shit happens all the time?
Maybe some countries in North Western EU, but not North Western Europe. The UK is the most North Western part of Europe and they most definitely do not require that level of competence lol.
Absolutely, but they don’t have any particular educational requirements. At least, not publicly. I imagine they have internal guidelines but can bend them for a candidate that convinces then to.
Everybody has to start somewhere and there are different types of police officers. Those that write only parking tickets do not have the same level of training as the ones with the guns.They still receive better training than anywhere in the US and there are still factors less killings every day by police than in the US.
You’re speaking as if I’m saying anything about whether that’s good or bad. All I did was offer the correction that European police aren’t necessarily well educated.
But for the past decade or two it has been coopted by the techbro crowd to a point of mostly just being rich folk larping “being a poor” while pretending they are artists or care about art. Also, lots of drugs .
That isn’t to say that normal people don’t go too. But it is very much “See, Zuckerberg is a human. he is grilling” in that “This is something humans would do… if you squint a lot”
But yeah, that was very much a “This marvel movie is the worst movie ever made” level comment.
Yes absolutely, because it’s radically inclusive so anyone can come. I’m also nor a fan of the rich paying people to set up their camp, flying in for two days, and dumping tons of trash on the road back to Reno… But everything good about the festival is still there also.
A week long vacation in a desert with no natural resources that more or less requires people to ship in all of their supplies for their stay is inherently not inclusive. It is “inclusive” in the same way “just take a gap year and go backpacking around Europe” is “inclusive”. The only people who think “anyone can do it” are those who have lived incredibly privileged >= middle class lives.
Like just about all of the “ten principles”: Maybe it was true at one point. It has not been true for decades. And, in a lot of ways (especially “leave no trace” and “civic responsibility”), it is antithetical to them.
And, just to make it clear: I am not saying it needs to be inclusive. I am a rock climber. You don’t get much more “privileged yuppie white guy” than that. But this “it is radically inclusive” nonsense is exactly why Burning Man is more or less “larping as a poor at a rave” for techbros.
During the same session they banned drag shows in such a vague way that a trans person playing guitar in a public place could be fined or even arrested for sexual performance. Also made it illegal to refuse to identify yourself to police
All I can picture is hundreds of artists designing some of the weirdest and coolest escape vehicles we have ever seen. I hope everyone is safe and not stuck for too long, but the creative ingenuity has got to be next-level with that crowd.
Cause police never lie, always give the facts right away, don’t hide the cameras and police videos and totally protect and serve the community… I totally trust them saying “nothing to see here, move along, just a tragedy that he did to himself”…
Misinformation or disinformation? It sounds nit picky, but there is a huge difference.
Sounds like semantic discord when the end result has no difference.
While the process of getting somewhere is human, you don't get a pass because you spread either 'Mis/Dis-information'.
It's unfortunate that we even have to draw this arbitrary line in the sand thanks to Republican 'Alternative Facts', aka, propaganda by any other sense of the word.
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