The proposal would require the most common-sized electric water heaters to achieve efficiency gains with heat pump technology and gas-fired water heaters to achieve efficiency gains through condensing technology.
The electric one is a pretty big design change.
Interesting what industry says on it:
A group including water heater maker Rheem, environmental group Natural Resources Defense Council and efficiency and consumer advocacy organizations issued a joint statement welcoming the new standards.
Tankless water heater maker Rinnai (5947.T), however, said the proposed standards for its products were “technologically impossible” and would reduce consumer choice.
PS if you want to reduce your hot water usage, turn off the shower while you’re soaping. I’ve got my shower down to like 1 minute of running water. Wash clothes on cold.
Heat pump water heaters already exist, but I think they're pretty expensive compared to gas/resistive heat.
I wouldn't be surprised if electric tankless water heaters are indeed infeasible under this mandate. Heat pumps generally aren't powerful, and tankless heaters require enormous amounts of power while in use.
Heat pump water heaters are pretty standard in large parts of the world. They are a bit expensive to install, but with today’s electric prices, they pay off quite fast.
When it’s on. When you aren’t using it, it draws zero. I’ve had a tankless electric for 8 years, and my power usage hasn’t changed much either up or down.
Storage water heaters can also capture off peak or curtailed energy (acting as 6-12kWh of diurnal storage), so they are more than 3x better in terms of emissions.
I doubt medics really want to bankrupt anyone. They’re usually the lowest paid out of any emergency service. Police and fire departments are paid way higher.
My area: ~$56k - Average police starting salary
~$59k - Average fire starting salary
~$32k - Average basic EMT
~$34k - Average advanced EMT
~$39k - Average paramedic
Blame the big pharmaceutical companies and corporate takeover of hospitals and small clinics for the insanity of medical costs. The absolute shitshow that insurance has become is also a large contributor. It’s bad enough that doctors are finding it much simpler to work for corporations instead of owning their own practice because it’s easier for the big company to fight the other big company.
Just thought I'd add this report from the AZ health department. This breaks down the factors MUCH better and comes to a similar, but not quite as extreme, conclusion. Only part is normalized for population, but it gives an idea of how to scale the numbers.
They probably can’t due to the way the old LA City laws were written. He atleast admitted those laws need to be re-evaluated. Will anything come of it? Doubtful.
Percentage of gross revenue. Movie studios are old hands at making profit disappear. John Cusack posted about how Better Off Dead had (according to the studio accounting) lost money over 30 years, despite grossing millions on a low budget.
Everything should be based on gross revenue - especially taxes. You shouldn’t get to not pay for all the infrastructure your country provides just because you spent too much on the business. The electric Co, water, suppliers, and contractor services get paid whether you make money or not. Government should be the same.
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